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T-Bird-Art

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iconnumber posted 03-14-2007 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T-Bird-Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Safe use of old silverplated tea / coffee sets has come into question. Particularily sets with worn silverplate.


Hello Andrew:
Boy did you pose a great question. Google research indicates most of the alloys used in "White Metal were highly toxic to humans. ( See Below). Unknown is amount of toxicity leached through the silverplate coating to the heated contents of a tea pot / coffee pot


Lead in particular was banned internationally in the production of ceramic tableware some years ago. The glaze coating of old tableware had lead that would leach out to the surface . Old ceramic tableware must be thoroughly washed before use.


Andrew:
"The thing I'm concerned about is that White metal may contain traces of lead - is the alloy safe for drinking if someone tries to make tea in the teapot? "


The white metals are any of several light-colored alloys used as a base for plated silverware, ornaments or novelties, as well as any of several lead-base or tin-base alloys used for things like bearings, jewellery, miniature figures, fusible plugs, some medals and metal type.
Some of the metals that make up a white metal alloy are antimony, tin, lead, cadmium, bismuth, and zinc. Not all of these metals are found in all white metal alloys but are mixed to achieve a desired goal or need. An example would be for jewelry. You would need it to be castable, polishable, have good flow characteristics, have the ability to cast fine detail without an excessive amount of porosity and cast at between 450 F and 575 F)

Antimony compounds show toxic properties similar to those of arsenic. This depends on how much antimony a person has been exposed to, for how long, ...


Tin - currently unknown toxicity to humans .


Lead- Highly toxic to humans , particularily children .


Cadmium - a widespread heavy metal in the environment and in our bodies. It is very poisonous . One source of cadmium in our environment, and main reason for cadmium accumulating in the body, is tobacco smoke. One cigarette contains 16-24 mcg. of cadmium of which the body absorbs approximately half. In addition to this, 5 - 10% of the cadmium from our food and other sources is absorbed; therefore, a substantial amount of cadmium is stored in our body system over a number of years.

Bismuth metal is not considered toxic and poses minimum threat to humans .

Even though zinc is an essential requirement for a healthy body, too much zinc can be harmful. Excessive absorption of zinc can suppress copper and iron absorption .

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 03-15-2007 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T-Bird-Art, thank you for the run down of a subject that not to many think about. One thing I have always wondered about is all the names for base metal silver plate. They seem to either call a spade a spade such as Pot metal or try to elevate it like Queens metal, as far as I can tell both a lead based low temperature alloy.

My personal feeling is that unless old silver plate is in great shape it is better to leave it on the shelf or have it replated.

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Clive E Taylor

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Interesting discussion but I feel that the minute amounts of lead etc likely to leach or in other ways move into the gut or bloodstream during normal use is too small to be of concern. Repairing is different. Heating or scraping metals with an unknown content may pose a slight risk. I accidentally tried to heat repair a buckle with a 20% antimony content - the entire surface melted and much vaporized. After many years regularly using carbon tetrachloride for cleaning photographic emulsions using un-gloved hands I was amazed a few years ago to find this practice was now considered extremely dangerous. I feel that the current "health and safety culture", while in many cases a good thing , does very much overplay very small risks.

I would not however advocate the 18th century view of mercurial gilding. One technique used to minimize the amount absorbed by the body was to eat gold leaf, recovering the gold by a process I need not describe .

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