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Scott Martin
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This is great. I've never seen this patent, although I knew that Alvin patented this process (in Newark)...like other Newark jewelers and silversmiths, they had an office in NYC (note the assignee for the patent is a Newark man, probably an employee of Alvin).

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Here is an Alvin silver deposit wine carafe in the Newark Museum, from the early years of Alvin's production of this material--probably 1890s. 13 7/8"High x 5 3/4"Wide

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I have seen a number of silver overlay or deposit pieces marked PATENT 1886. Does anyone have any information as to whose patent this is? Does anyone have any information at all regarding this mark?

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I just did a brief search on the web. The actual mark is PAT. JAN. 5. 1886. Solid Silver.
Edward A. Thiery and Charles F. Croselmire, of Newark NJ 01/05/1886 Publication Number: 00333697 first filed for this patent in Sept. 1885.
Anybody have additional information?

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iconnumber posted 07-23-2009 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
eek eek eek

CROSELMIRE SHOOTS HIMSELF AND WIFE;
Jewelry Refiner of Newark Calls Her from Breakfast and Tries to Kill Her.

NYT, December 12, 1910, Monday

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"Charles F. Croselmire, ... shot his wife, Henrietta, in the back of the neck yesterday morning at their home, ... and then turned the revolver on himself, firing one bullet into his heart and another into his head. His death was instantaneous."
Hmmn, suicide the old fashioned way?

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Charles F Croselmire was born in Hanau, Germany. He came to America with his family the year of his birth which was 1848. Apparently, he was a Civil War veteran, served in a calvary regiment and drew a disability pension.

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The patent #472230 was for the improvement to the silver deposit technique, principally the white appearance to the backing of the silver, making it more attractive on clear glass. It was assigned to Wymble Manufacturing of Newark, they were exhibitors at the 1893 Columbian Exposition, and were mentioned in the 1891 Newark and Its Leading Businessmen (excerpt posted below). Alvin bought Wymble on March 27, 1895 including all property and assets including the patent, the patent was assigned in writing to Alvin on May 13, 1895. Apparently the inventor decided to start his own company with some family members, Scharling & Co., for production of similar pieces using his technique, Alvin took them to court for patent infringement (Alvin Mfg. Co. v. Scharling) and eventually won the lawsuit. That explains the "NOTICE." in the 1897 Jewelers' Circular.

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Just as a side note--that address for the Wymble operation is in the heart of what was the jewelry and electro-plating district. It's where the first Tiffany factory in Newark was--the Shaw-run electroplating Tiffany factory.

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Ulysses, just curious, what do you mean by "the Shaw-run"? Scottish electroplaters? ;-}

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Thomas Shaw, trained in the plating factories of Birmingham, moved to the US in time to help Gorham set up their plating factory in Providence; then hired away by Tiffany & Co. to set up their plating factory--IN PROVIDENCE! Soon moved to Newark (Adams & Shaw) and set up Tiffany's exclusive-use plating factory on Mulberry Street (in the jewelry district)by 1870s. Thomas Shaw ran Tiffany's plating works until the big new Forest Hill factory opened in 1893. Thomas Shaw's son, Frank, did the chasing on the silver plated tea table that Tiffany showcased in Chicago at the 1893 world's fair.

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Thanks, interesting family history!

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