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cardigan

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iconnumber posted 05-21-2002 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cardigan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi folks,
can anyone tell me what that astric(*) means. its on a sterling and cobalt sugar dish that i own. and i want to know more. i've never seen it on any othere tiffany. thanks
cardigan

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2002 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, but I also have never seen an asterisk as a part of a Tiffany mark. In his book, Carpenter doesn't say anything about this symbol either. Perhaps it would be helpful to know the exact context of its use. Could you send an image, or at least cite the entire and exact markings on your piece?

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cardigan

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2002 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cardigan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by William Hood:
Sorry, but I also have never seen an asterisk as a part of a Tiffany mark. In his book, Carpenter doesn't say anything about this symbol either. Perhaps it would be helpful to know the exact context of its use. Could you send an image, or at least cite the entire and exact markings on your piece?

"TIFFANY & Co. 17831A MAKERS 5086 STERLING SILVER 925-1000 M* "

the astric is under the M. i will foward you a picture.

thanks

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smfc75

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2002 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smfc75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a piece marked

TIFFANY&Co.
19028A MAKERS 4245
STERLING SILVER
925-1000
m
.

The m is in script, and the dot (period) is under the m, definitely a part of the mark.

Is there any significance to the dot?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-22-2002 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cardigan, smfc75,

Send me a photo of the marks and I'll post them for everyone to see.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-22-2002 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Cardigan:

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 05-23-2002 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, This looks like Mark #24 in Carpenter. The star was used by Tiffany during the war years 1943 -1945, and it was stamped on "silverware made of domestically produced silver".

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smfc75

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iconnumber posted 05-24-2002 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smfc75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainwater indicates that "925-1000" was not used in the Tiffany mark after 1938. Is that incorrect?

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 05-24-2002 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe 925 - 1000 was in use until 1947.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-25-2002 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We received this on Tuesday but didn't realize it until a few minutes ago eek .... Sorry about the delay. redface

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 06-01-2002 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because of computer problems, I have not been able to get back into this discussion since 5-22-02. It appears that the mark in question by Cardigan was not really an asterisk but a star. (At least that's what it looks like to me in the fuzzy image posted from Cardigan on 5-22.) If that is correct, Richard Kurtzman's comment about this representing Carpenter's mark no. 24 is correct. As to the "dot" cited by smfc75 and shown in the image posted on 5-25, I have no idea what this signifies.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 11-15-2002 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THe little dot could simply be a centerpunch (i.e. the middle of the piece) but I don't know where the mark falls. I have seen these little punctuation marks, and they don't seem to mean anything.

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