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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 06-18-2006 07:24 PM
  
[26-1102] Will post a picture tomorrow, but maybe someone already knows the answer. Found a butter knife that has the marks an eagle with spread wings, under this is an anchor, then comes a right facing head. It looks a lot like a Diane head but it is not inside the flower shape but an oval. It has the soft look of silver, not silver plate and looks pretty old. If not old than fairly worn. Any ideas who or what it is? IP: Logged |
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andrewshane Posts: 18 |
posted 06-20-2006 12:54 AM
With only two marks and one being an eagle, my guess is an American coin silver item. andrewshane IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 06-20-2006 07:26 AM
ty andrew. was all ready to take the pictures, when my batteries died. will try again today. IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 06-22-2006 11:20 AM
 Hope you can make out the marks. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-22-2006 11:31 AM
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FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 06-22-2006 12:46 PM
It is American coin silver, and those are "pseudohallmarks", the identifying marks often used by wholesale manufacturers, especially here in the northeast. I'm away from my copy of McGrew at the moment, but they appear to be eagle - anchor - bust. I'll check McGrew when I get home to see if he identifies this set. I see that form usually referred to as a breakfast knife rather than a butter knife, but don't know how reliable that terminology may be. IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 06-22-2006 03:08 PM
ty both ..... couldn't find it in my way out dated books. IP: Logged |
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FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 06-23-2006 09:57 AM
McGrew, in Manufacturers' Marks on American Coin Silver, p.69, lists this mark as "Albert Coles - Morgan Morgans?", citing three examples on a folding fruit knife, a "hollow-handle 'Olive' pattern butter knife", and a beaded-pattern butter knife. Sorry for the delay; I've been "putting out fires" at work and home.... IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 06-23-2006 01:21 PM
TY for the information on those makers found this from Google search "Shiebler left this partnership in 1874 and within two years bought the silver spoon manufacturing business of Coles and Reynolds (which in turn had earlier taken over A. and W. Wood). On March 4, 1876, Shiebler and five employees began to operate Coles and Reynolds under Shiebler's name. In 1877 he bought the firm of John Polhamus (Polhamus having died that year), followed five years later by his acquisition of the factory of Morgan Morgans Jr., the successor to Albert Coles." Could this possibly be Shiebler or is it prior? Anyone know. Most probably prior or he would have been using his own mark? Using the search feature here as well as an internet search it appears that Albert Coles and or successors or Morgan Morgans interchanged the center mark (anchor on my knife) with other things. Pretty much the eagle and the bust (G Washington?) stayed the same. IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 06-23-2006 01:32 PM
Flatware Silver Marks & Patterns by Scott & June Martin The Goggle search also pulled up this book that is sold HERE as having information on the above company/silversmiths. We should all take advantage of the books listed here as reference and support this site with purchases. Anyone got a ladder to get me off this soapbox? IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 07-03-2014 04:54 PM
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