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denimrs Posts: 102 |
posted 11-12-2010 09:31 AM
After joining the Silver Forum I noticed in several posts about Gorham flatware that the company used both patent and copyright laws to protect their flatware designs. That caught my attention because until then I had not noticed the use of copyright marks on sterling flatware, and I wondered why they used both systems and whether other companies also did this. Additionally, I noticed the copyright discussions seemed to be in posts about patterns designed by Antoine Heller. Since I had several dessert spoons in his patterns, I became curious about what might be on my silver. So I did a survey of the marks on all my sterling flatware. At the end of this very small survey of just my flatware, I can make two observations:
2. And, they may have used Copyright laws for only designs by F. Antoine Heller. Gorham: Of the 6 Heller patterns I own: Fontainbleau, his first pattern for Gorham, has neither a patent or copyright mark. Old Medici, Cluny and Versailles are the 3 with copyright marks. And, St. Cloud and Florentine are the two patented designs: St. Cloud, with patent D16688 granted to Walter Wilkinson in May 11, 1886 and Florentine, It was interesting to me that the Carpenter Gorham book did not list Florentine as a Heller design, and also that Heller had left Gorham and returned to France when he made this application. FYI and to break up the text, here are my 6 Gorham dessert spoons in Heller designs:
From right to left: Fontainebleau (introduced in 1882); Old Medici (copyrighted 1883); Cluny (copyrighted 1883); St. Cloud (patented 1886); Versailles (copyrighted 1888); Florentine (patented 1901) Other Gorham patterns I own which are marked as having been patented are Empress, Buttercup, Cambridge and Old French. Other Makers – I also found patent marks on 9 patterns by other makers and none with a copyright mark: After this admittedly limited review, I am fascinated that the only pieces marked “Copyright” were Gorham Heller patterns and it makes me wonder – is my survey accurate? Or, are there other patterns by Gorham and/or other companies that were copyrighted? If not, why did Gorham do this? Why copyright only his designs and only some of them? Thanks for any and all suggestions that any of you can make to verify, invalidate, or explain my “observations”. Elizabeth IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 11-12-2010 10:04 AM
After a quick few minute review:
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denimrs Posts: 102 |
posted 11-12-2010 02:02 PM
Scott, Thanks for that. At least I now know that other companies did use the copyright process. Elizabeth IP: Logged |
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 11-23-2010 07:45 AM
Unger Brothers also copyrighted both flatware and silver jewelry designs--1902 and 1904 are the dates I seem to recall..."He Loves Me" is the one i can find in my drawer with a copyright mark to 1904. Tiffany also patented many of its designs, from "Japanese" in 1871 to "Broom Corn" in the late 1890s. Design patents are similar to copyright, but I'm not sure how the mechanism differs in function... IP: Logged |
denimrs Posts: 102 |
posted 11-23-2010 09:33 AM
quote: Mr. Dietz, It was the use of both copyright and patents by Gorham that got me puzzled, and the more limited use of copyrighting and the possibility that they only copyrighted some of Antoine Heller's designs, while patenting many more of their designs --- from my observations, at least. From what I know about the two design protection systems, of the two, the patent process is more complicated and expensive, takes longer and lasts for a shorter time. Yet, it seems to have been the preferred system to protect flatware designs as it appears more patents were obtained than copyrights --- again, from my observations. However, I now know that Gorham was not the only company to use the copyright system as I had wondered and that is good information to have. Thanks for your participation and information. IP: Logged |
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 11-23-2010 04:33 PM
Ah, so Copyright is quick? Yeah, what would the point of patenting be if it doesn't last as long. Copyrights are very powerful these days, even on objects. IP: Logged |
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