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Anuh

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2003 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some years ago, I bought three 3-piece place settings of silver from Korea. They are decorated with a blue enamel marking at the top which a Korean friend of mine says would be very in keeping with Korean silver. However, she did not know what the standard for silver in Korea is as she has spent most of her life in the U.S. The pieces only carry the mark "Silver" on the back, and may have been made for the tourist trade in Korea.

Does anyone know what the standard for Korean silver is?

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2003 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Chinese 3-piece Place Setting

The place setting consists of a 7¾" long-handled oval soup or table spoon, a 7¾" long flat-handled dinner knife and an 8" long dinner fork. You are buying one 3-piece place setting, which weighs 4.5 ounces, with the option of buying all three place settings.

Makers: Unknown

Mark: Silver

Monogram: Chinese pictogram for "Longevity".


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Davy C

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2003 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Davy C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although they were purchased in Korea, but they may not be of Korean origin. The blue enamel "marking" on the handles are not Korean characters. They are traditional Chinese character means "longevity". In the close up picture of the handle, the character appears sideway. Korean are very proud of their culture and will not put other country's language onto their products if they don't have to.

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2003 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Davy C:
Although they were purchased in Korea, but they may not be of Korean origin. The blue enamel "marking" on the handles are not Korean characters. They are traditional Chinese character means "longevity". In the close up picture of the handle, the character appears sideway. Korean are very proud of their culture and will not put other country's language onto their products if they don't have to.


Thank you very much. Assuming that they are Chinese, then, what is the Chinese standard for silver? Anyone know?

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2003 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a similarly decorated set consisting of a spoon and a pair of chopsticks. I also believe that these are Chinese. I don't have the set with me, but I think the spoon is marked 900, which would be the silver standard. I'm not sure if that is official Chinese standard, though, or if there even is one. I will see what I can dig up.

BTW, the main intended purpose of the Forums is to share information, not to sell. Questions are fine, but please confine commercial links and information to the "FOR SALE" Forum. Thanks!

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iconnumber posted 08-25-2003 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brent:
BTW, the main intended purpose of the Forums is to share information, not to sell. Questions are fine, but please confine commercial links and information to the "FOR SALE" Forum. Thanks!

Brent


Brent, my intention was not to sell here, but that link was the easiest way to post all the information I had on these pieces. Since it is posted for sale elsewhere, I was not thinking in terms of sale potential.

But, I also wasn't thinking in terms of Scott posting the entire ad as a picture. I've already made changes to the ad from the original which stated what I was told when I bought these - Korean with a Korean pictogram to the information about the Chinese. Sorry if I stepped over boundaries here.

I would still like to know why it carries the term "Silver" and what that is likely to mean.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 08-25-2003 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is probably no way to know what "SILVER" means unless you actually have the stuff tested. It just means that it is some grade of silver. It could be .700 grade or it could be .950.

A similar thing occurred with some jewelry made in the Victorian era. Several manufacturers would stamp their items "GOLD" or "SOLID GOLD." However, the pieces could be as low as 6k (25%) gold. These stamps just meant the piece was some grade of gold. Most pieces marked this way are only so-so quality manufacture and not very high karat gold. I wonder if the same is true of this Chinese silver. If it was in the higher range, like .900, why wouldn't the makers have specifically said so?

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iconnumber posted 08-25-2003 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You would think they would. OTOH, it is just possible that they went with whatever the person who translated it for them told them was a proper term.

I know many NA craftsmen who don't know that they should mark their work as Sterling when they are making it with that grade of silver. They often don't mark it at all, which makes it nearly impossible to sell as Sterling silver work.

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2003 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received an email from a man in Korea who had the following to say about this silver.

"Standard Korean silver is 99% silver. And the enamel marking is a traditional Korean pattern, too. Yes, it is a Chinese letter. Since Korea is historically influenced by Chinese, we've been used Chinese letters as a pattern. Blue stands for a male, and red stands for a female. Usually husband and wife. The letter itself means 'luck' , 'fortune' or 'happiness'.

I hope you have all the answers you wanted to know. If you have more question let me know. "

So the quest goes on! biggrin

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