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Marc

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iconnumber posted 11-09-2005 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there guys.

I just had a neat piece fall into my lap. It is a piece of Georg Jensen BEAD pattern, a small sauce ladle. All OK so far.

The marks on the back tell a confusing story. The first is the "old" Jensen mark, that of a "G" on top of a "J". OK... I have owned some of that. The second is, "GEORG JENSEN, USA, STERLING". The third mark is "L.P. 102" (La Paglia ?).

My question is...did Georg Jensen have a retail outlet in the USA, and if so when?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Respectfully,

Marc Cutcher


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Dale

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iconnumber posted 11-09-2005 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The search function turns up several threads dealing with this issue. Here are four that directly look at this mark:

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 11-10-2005 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a piece made in the USA during World War II. I have seen the LP mark indicated as the mark of Alphonse LaPaglia, who worked for Jensen from his studio in Summit, NJ, during the 1940s, before he was optioned by International Silver.

I haven't checked out the links provided, but wanted to put in a note here.

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 11-10-2005 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The L.P. is definitely for Alphonse LaPaglia, and most of the other marks are typical for "Jensen USA", items made from World War II up to the early 50's by American craftsmen for the Jensen retail shops in the US. However, I have never seen an "official" GJ stamp like yours on a piece of Jensen USA. That is a mystery to me.

Brent

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Kayvee

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iconnumber posted 11-10-2005 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kayvee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Brent that this is a very puzzling set of marks. According to Janet Drucker’s book, the Beaded pattern was introduced in 1916. Also according to Drucker, the Jensen company mark of G with a decorative J superimposed was in use from 1904-1914. Therefore I wouldn’t expect to find the G superimposed J mark on a Beaded pattern piece. Then there are the New York marks. I think that La Paglia and other Jensen N.Y. designers did not copy Jensen Denmark pieces exactly, but rather interpreted the Jensen style. Again, you wouldn’t expect to see La Paglia’s mark on a Beaded pattern piece. Nor would you expect to see Jensen N.Y. and Jensen Denmark company marks on the same piece. I don’t know what is going on with your item, but perhaps someone who has seen a lot of both Jensen Denmark and Jensen N.Y. could be more helpful. In a similar case, a few years ago I saw flatware in the Pyramid pattern, introduced in 1926, marked G superimposed J and Sterling. I was told that it was a high quality Japanese copy of Pyramid.

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 11-12-2005 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again.. I may be mistaken on the pattern. Anyhow, I thought I would post a photo. Side view.

Marc

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Kayvee

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iconnumber posted 11-12-2005 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kayvee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your pretty ladle is definitely not Beaded, but rather a Blossom-inspired design. La Paglia made several of these that were very popular and often copied by Mexican silversmiths. See the third thread that Dale lists above for pictures of some of these copies. Whether your ladle is a genuine La Paglia would have to be determined by someone who is familiar with his work. The early Jensen Denmark mark on a Jensen New York piece still bothers me.

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 11-12-2005 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although the above pictured item carries plenty of affinities to Jensen's Blossom, it much more closely resembles a piece I've seen by the Danish silversmith Ernst Dragsted—which is probably also Blossom-inspired. Like the above piece, the handle on this Dragsted piece employed an underside sweep rather than the over-and-front as pictured in the Jensen-copy thread linked above. Dragsted was active 1920-1950, which puts his work after Blossom's 1919 introduction.

[This message has been edited by IJP (edited 11-12-2005).]

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2005 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again,

This ladle came in from a lady who traveled widely in the 40's and 50's. There are several pieces of Cactus and Acorn in the group, as well as French English, Dutch, German, and US silver holloware. The USA material was all New York City, so this ladle may have been purchased there.

I do agree, the old Jensen mark bothers me too.

Thanks as always.

Marc

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 06-26-2009 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an image of an Alphonse LaPaglia compote, made for Georg Jensen USA, and made in his workshop in Summit. The mark, too. This same model was made at International.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 06-26-2009 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And here is a compote, recently donated to the Newark Museum, by Walter Meyer of Orange, NJ (different from William B. Meyers of Newark)who was yet another NJ silversmith who made Jensen-esque pieces. This from the 1950s, given as a golden wedding gift.

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