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doc

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iconnumber posted 11-21-2004 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a spoon with pseudo hallmarks and marked Yates in script. Kovel's identifies several Yates as working in upstate NY, but I don't have anything that links the mark to one of the makers. Any help would be appreciated. I have tried to link a photo-still learning this process!


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iconnumber posted 11-22-2004 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most of the "Yates" pieces I have seen are plated, but I would have to see a photo to tell if yours is.

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iconnumber posted 11-22-2004 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about the picture size-I thought I had it at the smallest pixel size, but apparently not. I didn't include a photo of the entire spoon, but it is a classic fiddle handle spoon and is definitely coin.

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iconnumber posted 11-22-2004 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is the plated Yates mark I have seen. Often the plate is worn off, and it is brass underneath. I believe if you will test it, you will find it to be so.

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iconnumber posted 11-24-2004 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John Yates was a prolific producer of silverplate in Birmingham, England. Their flatware can be confused with coin silver, but if plated it will often have telltale wear-through. If your spoon has a yellowish cast to it, it may be just unplated German silver. Though I can't recall seeing this exact mark before, I think it is indeed a piece by John Yates and likely not actually coin silver.

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iconnumber posted 11-24-2004 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took another look at the spoon (I am away from home during the week for work) and I agree that it is plated. Thanks for the help on this!

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