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SusanT Posts: 104 Registered: Nov 2005	posted 06-11-2006 11:28 AM [26-1092] Have now finished researching coin spoons passed down to me. However, have questions on additional marks of a couple of sets of teaspoons. I identified the makers but lost on the meanings of the additional marks. 1. Two identical teaspoons by Hart and Smith of Baltimore. These spoons came down from a great great aunt, Anna Lucinda Whiton (1836 Ashford, CT - 1915 Ashford, CT, md. 1866 Charles Chism). 5 5/8" long. Both monogrammed: "ALW". Elliptical-shape bowls, collared necks, rounded fiddle-shape handles with some arching and bent up tips. Monogram: "ALW". Mark: "H & S". Addition marks: anchor, star. Some sources have said Hart and Smith were in business only for a few years around 1815; however, the shape and style of these spoons look to be c1830-1865. My question, what do the anchor and star stand for? At first I thought they might by of the Baltimore Assay Office marks but after further reading and surfing the net, I don't think so. 2. Four identical teaspoons by Benjamin F. Vallet of Kingston, NY per Kovel, p. 378. Don't know when, where, or from whom my mother got them. 5 7/8" long. All monogrammed: "JR". Elliptical-shape bowls, collared necks, rounded fiddle-shape handle with arched backs and bent down tips. Back of bowl has a possible rat tail? Mark: "B.F.Vallet". Additions marks: punch with "D" or a rubbed "A" on its side (depending on viewing angle), passant lion facing right, and 8 sided shaped punch with a head possibly facing right (head of Washington?). What do the additional marks stand for? Were they part of Vallet's marks, as Kovel doesn't give an example of his marks? Could they by pseudo marks? TIA. --- Susan IP: Logged
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 Registered: Apr 99	posted 06-11-2006 01:37 PM The first pair of spoons are not by HART & SMITH, but by HOTCHKISS & SCHREUDER (David Hotchkiss and Andrew B. Schreuder) of Syracuse NY, c 1845-1871. The mark shown was used in the 1865-1871 period. Vallet worked in Kingston c 1835-1850. The additional marks on both groups are typical NY state pseudo marks. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 06-11-2006).] IP: Logged
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 Registered: Apr 99	posted 06-11-2006 03:23 PM Just in case you need a structure for broadening your collection, here are the silversmiths in my project that are related, through her mother's side, to Anna Lucinda (and, in some measure, to you): Solon Abbott, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Charles C Ackley, 5th Cousin Thaddeus D Ackley, 5th Cousin William Douglas Ackley, 5th Cousin Once Removed Frank Edson Adams, 7th Cousin Mark White Adams, 7th Cousin Joel Allen, 5th Cousin Once Removed Philo Gates Alvord, 6th Cousin William Henry Amidon, 7th Cousin David Bush Anderson, 6th Cousin Zalmon Aspinwall, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Augustine Ashley Austin, 5th Cousin Once Removed Thomas Merrill Austin, 6th Cousin Once Removed Samuel Babcock, 6th Cousin Samuel Babcock, 5th Cousin Once Removed Silas Dexter Bacon, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Bradbury Melon Bailey, 7th Cousin Charles Bailey, 7th Cousin Ebenezer Eaton Bailey, 7th Cousin Horace Clark Bailey, 6th Cousin Roswell Hopkins Bailey, 7th Cousin Samuel Chase Bailey, 7th Cousin Samuel Philbrick Bailey, 7th Cousin Anson Baker, 6th Cousin Eleazer Baker, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Calvin Stowe Ball, 6th Cousin Calvin Stowe Ball, 6th Cousin Once Removed James Madison Barrows, 5th Cousin Once Removed John Beach, 4th Cousin Once Removed Caleb Beal, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Clement Beecher, 7th Cousin Once Removed Butler Bement, 7th Cousin Once Removed John B. Benjamin, 2nd Cousin 3 Times Removed Andrew Billings, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Daniel Billings, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Charles Bisbee, 5th Cousin Twice Removed David Brainard Blake, 6th Cousin Once Removed John Wood Blauvelt, 6th Cousin Joseph Blauvelt, 6th Cousin Charles Clement Bliss, 6th Cousin Henri O. Bliss, 6th Cousin Once Removed John Bliss, 5th Cousin Once Removed Jonathan Bliss, 5th Cousin Once Removed Moses Bliss, 4th Cousin Once Removed William Bliss, 5th Cousin Once Removed James Boutelle, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Jeffrey Richardson Brackett, 6th Cousin Ebenezer Bradbury, 6th Cousin John Bradbury, 6th Cousin Theophilus Bradbury, 5th Cousin Once Removed Gustavus Clark Bradley, 6th Cousin Once Removed Horace Strong Bradley, Half 4th Cousin Once Removed Richard Bradley, 6th Cousin Once Removed Zebul Bradley, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Charles Brainard, 4th Cousin Once Removed Frank Wendal Brainard, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Joseph Hunt Breck, 4th Cousin Twice Removed John Breed, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Charles Brewer, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Henry Whitman Brewster, 8th Cousin Timothy Brigden, 6th Cousin Charles Julius Brinsmaid, 5th Cousin Once Removed Frederick Thomas Brinsmaid, 5th Cousin Once Removed George Bliss Brinsmaid, 5th Cousin Once Removed James Edgar Brinsmaid, 5th Cousin Sedgwick Swift Brinsmaid, 5th Cousin Sedgwick Swift Brinsmaid, 5th Cousin Once Removed William Bliss Brinsmaid, 5th Cousin Adba Freedom Brockway, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Philip Brown, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Seth Eastman Brown, 4th Cousin Once Removed Liberty Browne, 5th Cousin Once Removed Abel Buell, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Dwight Hawley Buell, 7th Cousin Once Removed John Buell, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Samuel Buell, 6th Cousin Twice Removed William Buell, 7th Cousin Once Removed Caleb Bull, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Epaphras Bull, 5th Cousin Twice Removed George Washington Bull, 7th Cousin Once Removed Jedediah Stark Burdick, 8th Cousin William Pendleton Burdick, 7th Cousin Once Removed William Pendleton Burdick, 8th Cousin Daniel Burnap, 4th Cousin 3 Times Removed Ela Burnap, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Edmund Bennett Burnham, 6th Cousin Once Removed Edward B. Burnham, 6th Cousin Once Removed George Burnham, 4th Cousin 3 Times Removed Henry Burnham, 6th Cousin Once Removed John Burnham, 5th Cousin Twice Removed John Burnham, 6th Cousin Once Removed Albert Chapin Burr, 4th Cousin Once Removed Alexander Jay Burr, 4th Cousin Once Removed Cornelius A. Burr, 4th Cousin Once Removed Edwin Joseph Burritt, Half 7th Cousin Jason Buswell, 5th Cousin Nathaniel Butler, 6th Cousin Once Removed Rebecca Damon Butterfield, 6th Cousin Samuel Carman, 6th Cousin Once Removed Samuel Serne Carman, 6th Cousin Once Removed Charles Augustus Carpenter, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Joseph Carpenter, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed William Williams Cary, 6th Cousin Once Removed Clayton Horace Case, 6th Cousin Once Removed Philemon Holcomb Case, 6th Cousin Aaron Chapin, 2nd Cousin 3 Times Removed Elam Chapin, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Henry Lewis Chapin, 7th Cousin Once Removed Humiston Chapin, 5th Cousin Once Removed Laertes Chapin, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Otis Chapin, 7th Cousin Once Removed John Hatch Chedell, 5th Cousin Once Removed Martin Cheney, 5th Cousin Once Removed Samuel Winchester Chubbuck, 6th Cousin Joseph Church, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Benjamin Winthrop Clapp, 5th Cousin Once Removed Henry Wells Clapp, 5th Cousin Once Removed A. W. Clark, 7th Cousin Horace G. Clark, 7th Cousin Norman Clark, 7th Cousin William Clark, 5th Cousin Twice Removed William Barton Clark, 6th Cousin Francis Williams Clarke, 5th Cousin Once Removed Aaron Porter Cleveland, 6th Cousin Twice Removed William Cleveland, 6th Cousin Twice Removed John Coburn, 4th Cousin 3 Times Removed Seth Storer Coburn, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Henry Augustus Coe, 5th Cousin Lysander Philetus Coe, 5th Cousin Samuel Ellsworth Coe, 5th Cousin Edward Coit, 5th Cousin Once Removed Thomas Chester Coit, Half 3rd Cousin Once Removed Ebenezer Cole, 6th Cousin Demas Colton, 5th Cousin Once Removed Levi Chandler Colton, 5th Cousin Once Removed Shubael Conant, 4th Cousin Once Removed Oliver Blanchard Cooley, 5th Cousin Once Removed Joseph Copp, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Nathaniel Cornwell, 6th Cousin Twice Removed John Osgood Cowles, 5th Cousin Ralph Cowles, 6th Cousin Once Removed Royal Cowles, 7th Cousin Susan Fairchild Cowles, 5th Cousin Once Removed Jeremiah Crandall, 4th Cousin 4 Times Removed Samuel Trevitt Crosby, 7th Cousin Daniel Curtis, 6th Cousin Frederick Curtis, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Lewis Curtis, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Richard Cutler, 6th Cousin Twice Removed William Cutler, 6th Cousin Twice Removed William Cutter, 5th Cousin Once Removed Henry Daggett, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Lemuel Davenport, 4th Cousin 4 Times Removed Thomas Aspinwall Davis, 6th Cousin Once Removed Ebenezer Dennis, 4th Cousin Twice Removed George Dennis, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Aaron Lufkin Dennison, 6th Cousin Eliphalet Wharf Dennison, 6th Cousin Hiram Todd Dewey, 7th Cousin Jeremiah Dewey, 6th Cousin Once Removed Minerva Dexter, 7th Cousin Once Removed Pliny Dickinson, 5th Cousin Once Removed Nehemiah Dodge, 4th Cousin Once Removed Edward Henry Doten, 4th Cousin Twice Removed William Doud, 6th Cousin Albert H. Draper, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Francis Samuel Draper, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Josiah Draper, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Origen William Draper, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Oscar Mann Draper, 7th Cousin Once Removed Virgil Draper, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Rufus Davenport Dunbar, 7th Cousin Daniel Chase Dunham, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Joshua Eames, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Abiel Blanchard Eastman, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Moses Eastman, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Robert Eastman, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Seth Eastman, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed James Easton, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Henry Harrison Eaton, 6th Cousin Isaiah Eaton, Half 3rd Cousin Once Removed Willie J. Eaton, 7th Cousin Once Removed Edward Eells, 5th Cousin Once Removed Alexander Ely, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Stephen Emery, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Thomas Knox Emery, 4th Cousin Once Removed George Augustus Eno, 6th Cousin Once Removed Joseph Fairchild, 7th Cousin Once Removed Henry Farnam, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Zenas Fearing, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Herbert Melancthon Federhen, 5th Cousin Once Removed John Federhen, 5th Cousin Once Removed Ebenezer Ferren, 5th Cousin Once Removed Thomas Francis Fessenden, 5th Cousin William Bodfish Fessenden, 4th Cousin Once Removed John Fitch, 4th Cousin Twice Removed John Folsom, 5th Cousin Once Removed William Foote, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Justus Francis, 7th Cousin Once Removed Julius Frary, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Norman A. Freeman, 5th Cousin Once Removed Christopher Gallup, 5th Cousin Once Removed Barzillai Gardner, 5th Cousin Once Removed James Harvey Gerould, 4th Cousin Once Removed Samuel Allen Gerould, 5th Cousin Samuel Allen Gerould, 4th Cousin Once Removed Eli Mason Gibbs, 6th Cousin Once Removed Caleb Gill, Half 4th Cousin Twice Removed Leavitt Gill, Half 5th Cousin Once Removed Daniel Goddard, 6th Cousin Luther Goddard, 5th Cousin Once Removed Luther D. Goddard, 6th Cousin Once Removed Parley Goddard, 6th Cousin James Madison Gooding, 5th Cousin Once Removed Josephus Gooding, 5th Cousin Once Removed Josiah Gooding, 5th Cousin Once Removed Charles Whiting Goodrich, 6th Cousin Twice Removed William McLean Goodrich, 7th Cousin Once Removed Allyn Goodwin, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Benjamin Goodwin, 4th Cousin 3 Times Removed Horace Goodwin, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Joseph Goodwin, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Joseph Gilbert Goodwin, 7th Cousin Ralph Goodwin, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Jabez Gorham, 5th Cousin Once Removed John Gorham, 5th Cousin Once Removed John Gorham, 6th Cousin Miles Gorham, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Miles Gorham, 5th Cousin Once Removed Richard Gorham, 5th Cousin Once Removed Richard Gove, 5th Cousin Once Removed Daniel Graham, 4th Cousin 3 Times Removed Chauncey Griswold, 7th Cousin Gaylord H Griswold, 4th Cousin Once Removed Isaac Guild, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed William Gurley, 7th Cousin Once Removed David Richard Hale, 5th Cousin Once Removed Green Hall, 6th Cousin Cyrus Hamlin, 6th Cousin Once Removed John Hosmer Hamlin, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed William Hamlin, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Florence L. Hancock, Wife of 6th Cousin Once Removed Henry Harland, 5th Cousin Once Removed Thomas Harland, 5th Cousin Once Removed Reuben Harmon, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Charles Emerson Haskins, 4th Cousin Edward Ripley Haskins, 4th Cousin Ralph Thurston Haskins, 3rd Cousin Once Removed William Emerson Haskins, 3rd Cousin Once Removed Eurotas Parmalee Hastings, 5th Cousin Once Removed Oliver Hastings, 4th Cousin Twice Removed John Dean Hawley, 7th Cousin Once Removed Oliver Andrew Hawley, 7th Cousin Once Removed Augustus Henry Hayden, 5th Cousin Once Removed Hezekiah Sidney Hayden, 5th Cousin Once Removed Nathaniel Hayden, 5th Cousin Once Removed Charles Edward Hayward, 7th Cousin Once Removed George Hedge, 5th Cousin Once Removed Freeman Hinckley, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Daniel Burritt Hinman, 8th Cousin Epaphras Hinsdale, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Horace Seymour Hinsdale, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Henry Ralph Holman, 6th Cousin Harry A. Holton, 7th Cousin Harry Hibbard Holton, 6th Cousin Once Removed Jesse Hopkins, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Joseph Hopkins, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Joseph W. Hopkins, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Stephen Hopkins, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Stanford Hovey, 6th Cousin Abraham Howard, 7th Cousin Otis Howland, 6th Cousin Once Removed Freeman Hoyt, 5th Cousin Once Removed Jonathan Hunt, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Philip Huntington, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Richard Huntington, 5th Cousin Once Removed James Nevins Hyde, 5th Cousin Once Removed Clement Jackson, 4th Cousin 3 Times Removed George W. Jenney, 7th Cousin William P. Jones, 5th Cousin John Cooley Keep, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Elizabeth Kelley, 6th Cousin Twice Removed William B. Kelley, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Thomas Kettell, 6th Cousin Once Removed Alva Kimball, 5th Cousin Once Removed Ashbel King, 5th Cousin Once Removed Julius King, 5th Cousin Once Removed Walter King, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Walter Burnham King, 5th Cousin Once Removed John Burgis Kirby, 5th Cousin Once Removed Samuel Hubbard Kirby, 6th Cousin James Elias Lassell, 3rd Cousin Once Removed Rufus Lathrop, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Septimus Lathrop, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Ebenezer Leach, 6th Cousin Isaac Lewis, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Albert Lamb Lincoln, 5th Cousin Once Removed Elijah Lincoln, Half 5th Cousin Once Removed Frederick William Lincoln, 6th Cousin Once Removed Clark Lindsley, 7th Cousin Once Removed Guy Loomis, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Warham P. Loomis, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Elpalet Loring, Half 4th Cousin Twice Removed Elpalet Loring, Half 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Ezra Lewis Manning, 7th Cousin Samuel Marsh, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Robert Hinds Maynard, 5th Cousin Once Removed Almon Ainsworth Mead, 4th Cousin Once Removed James Ambrose Merrill, 5th Cousin Storrs Messinger, 4th Cousin Once Removed James Mix, 6th Cousin Once Removed James Cadwell Mix, 5th Cousin John Mooar, 7th Cousin Martin Moses, Half 6th Cousin Once Removed Jacob Hopper Mott, 6th Cousin James Stryker Mott, 6th Cousin Jordan Mott, 5th Cousin Once Removed Jordon Mott, 6th Cousin Austin Erastus Munger, 5th Cousin Once Removed James Elisha Munger, 5th Cousin Cornelius Munson, Half 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Comfort Starr Mygatt, 4th Cousin Twice Removed David Mygatt, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Rufus Nevins, 5th Cousin Once Removed David Beach Nichols, 7th Cousin Once Removed Jonathan Bassett Nichols, 4th Cousin Once Removed Daniel Noble, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Luke Noble, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Philander Noble, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Linus North, 7th Cousin Orrin Stanley North, 7th Cousin Phineas North, 5th Cousin Twice Removed William Bennett North, 6th Cousin Once Removed Thomas Norton, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Frederick Oakes, 7th Cousin Once Removed Henry Oakes, 7th Cousin Once Removed William Oakes, 7th Cousin Once Removed George Olmsted, 6th Cousin Once Removed Nathaniel Olmsted, 6th Cousin Twice Removed William Owen, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Jonathan Packard, 4th Cousin Once Removed William Vail Pardee, 7th Cousin John Parkman, 3rd Cousin 4 Times Removed Moses Pearson, 6th Cousin Once Removed Willis Herbert Pearson, 7th Cousin William Smith Pelletreau, 7th Cousin Once Removed Erastus Stanton Pendleton, 6th Cousin Once Removed Josiah Penfield, 6th Cousin David C. Percival, 5th Cousin Leonard Perkins, 5th Cousin Once Removed Ebenezer Strong Phelps, 4th Cousin Once Removed Jedediah Phelps, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Benjamin Pierpont, 2nd Cousin 3 Times Removed Henry Pitkin, 6th Cousin Horace Edward Pitkin, 7th Cousin Once Removed James Flagg Pitkin, 6th Cousin John Owen Pitkin, 6th Cousin Joseph Fitch Pitkin, 6th Cousin Levi Pitkin, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Walter M. Pitkin, 6th Cousin William Leonard Pitkin, 7th Cousin Once Removed Hunt Pomeroy, 5th Cousin Once Removed Frederick Wadsworth Porter, 8th Cousin Henry Chester Porter, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Joseph Sewall Porter, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Frank James Preston, 6th Cousin George Lafayette Preston, 6th Cousin Once Removed George Lafayette Preston, 6th Cousin William Sanford Preston, 6th Cousin John N. Prior, 5th Cousin Warren Prior, 4th Cousin Once Removed Nathaniel Langdon Proctor, 6th Cousin Henry Quincy, 5th Cousin Once Removed William A. Quincy, 5th Cousin Once Removed William Salter Quincy, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Billy Decatur Randall, 5th Cousin Once Removed Joseph Volney Randall, 5th Cousin Once Removed Myrick Ogilvia Randall, 5th Cousin Once Removed Nathaniel Randall, 5th Cousin Once Removed Asa Ransom, 5th Cousin Once Removed Freeman Collins Raymond, 7th Cousin Joseph Reeves, 4th Cousin Twice Removed David Ripley, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Joseph Roberts, 8th Cousin Once Removed Edward Rockwell, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Samuel Strong Rockwell, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Aurelius Clark Root, 5th Cousin Once Removed Charles Boudinot Root, 6th Cousin Once Removed Laurence Mattoon Root, 5th Cousin Once Removed Washington Mcdonough Root, 5th Cousin Once Removed Alexander Rumrill, 5th Cousin Once Removed James Bliss Rumrill, 5th Cousin Once Removed John Russell, 5th Cousin Twice Removed John Russell, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Adnah Sackett, 7th Cousin Once Removed Harvey Sadd, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Jeremiah Niles Sands, 6th Cousin Once Removed Frederick Coleman Sanford, 6th Cousin Ensign Sargeant, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Henry Sargeant, 5th Cousin Once Removed Jacob Sargeant, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Samuel Sargeant, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Thomas Sargeant, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Pulaski Scovil, 7th Cousin Once Removed Joshua Albert Sears, 6th Cousin Once Removed Edwin Goodwin Seymour, 7th Cousin Henry Phelps Seymour, 7th Cousin Joseph Seymour, 7th Cousin Moses Seymour, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Oliver DeWitt Seymour, 7th Cousin Clark Sibley, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Richard James Sibley, 7th Cousin Once Removed Micah Sill, 6th Cousin Valentine Warner Skiffe, 8th Cousin Elizur Skinner, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Edward A. Slader, 5th Cousin Jeremiah Snow, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Ralph Snow, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Asa Spencer, 7th Cousin Once Removed George Spencer, 6th Cousin Twice Removed James Spencer, 7th Cousin Once Removed James Spencer, 4th Cousin Once Removed Nathaniel Spencer, 6th Cousin Twice Removed John Sprague, 5th Cousin Once Removed Daniel Stanton, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Enoch Stanton, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Zebulon Stanton, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Jasper Starr, 3rd Cousin 4 Times Removed Richard Starr, 5th Cousin Once Removed James P. Steele, 6th Cousin Once Removed Thomas Steele, 5th Cousin Thomas Sedgwick Steele, 5th Cousin Once Removed Elizur Seneca Stevens, 6th Cousin Once Removed Benjamin Stiles, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Samuel Stiles, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Charles Storrs, 5th Cousin Ely A. Storrs, 5th Cousin Henry Southworth Storrs, 5th Cousin Nathan Storrs, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Shubael Storrs, 4th Cousin Once Removed Charles Cyprian Strong, 4th Cousin Once Removed Peter Strong, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Benjamin Swan, 4th Cousin Once Removed Charles Frederick Swan, 5th Cousin Moses Moody Swan, 5th Cousin Najah Taylor, 5th Cousin Once Removed Geer Terry, Half 4th Cousin Twice Removed Joseph Blake Thaxter, 5th Cousin Once Removed William Thaxter, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Daniel B. Thompson, 6th Cousin Once Removed Henry H. Thompson, 7th Cousin Isaac Thompson, 6th Cousin Once Removed Gorham Thurber, 6th Cousin William Herbert Thurber, 6th Cousin Once Removed Elijah Tillotson, 6th Cousin Nathan Tisdale, 4th Cousin Once Removed William Tisdale, 5th Cousin William Tisdale, 3rd Cousin Twice Removed Edward Bass Towle, 5th Cousin Once Removed Henry Towle, 6th Cousin Once Removed William Anthony Towle, 5th Cousin Once Removed Rufus King Twombly, 8th Cousin Andrew Underhill, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Thomas Underhill, 3rd Cousin 3 Times Removed Stephen Cornelius Van Wyck, 5th Cousin Twice Removed David M Varney, 5th Cousin Once Removed Joseph Veazie, 5th Cousin Once Removed Edwin Waterman Vose, 6th Cousin Once Removed Adelbert Ashley Webster, 7th Cousin Once Removed Clarence Barnett Webster, 8th Cousin Ebenezer Wells, 4th Cousin Twice Removed Caleb Wheaton, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Calvin Wheaton, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed George Wheaton, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Amos White, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Philo White, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed George Henry Whitford, 8th Cousin Florence Whiting, 6th Cousin Once Removed Frank Mortimer Whiting, 6th Cousin Once Removed Josephine Whiting, 6th Cousin Once Removed William Dean Whiting, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed John Henry Whitlock, 6th Cousin Ebed Whiton, 5th Cousin Ezra Whiton, 5th Cousin Alvan Wilcox, 6th Cousin Once Removed Cyprian Wilcox, 6th Cousin Once Removed Deodat Williams, 5th Cousin 3 Times Removed Amasa Winslow, 5th Cousin Once Removed Adna V. Wiswell, 7th Cousin Henry Drayton Wolcott, Half 5th Cousin Twice Removed Albert Nathaniel Wood, 6th Cousin Once Removed Benjamin Wood, 5th Cousin Once Removed Charles Wood, 6th Cousin Once Removed Henry Wood, 6th Cousin Once Removed Jacob Wood, 6th Cousin Once Removed Aaron Woolworth, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Danforth Woolworth, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Richard Champion Woolworth, 5th Cousin Twice Removed Nathaniel Worthley, 6th Cousin Twice Removed Nathaniel True Worthley, 6th Cousin Once Removed William Emmons Greenleaf Worthley, 6th Cousin Once Removed Elijah Yeomans, 4th Cousin Twice Removed When you've found an example from each of them, I can give you a new list of those who married into the tree -- only another 120 or so. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 06-11-2006).] IP: Logged
SusanT Posts: 104 Registered: Nov 2005	posted 06-11-2006 06:36 PM quote: The first pair of spoons are not by HART & SMITH, but by HOTCHKISS & SCHREUDER (David Hotchkiss and Andrew B. Schreuder) of Syracuse NY, c 1845-1871. The mark shown was used in the 1865-1871 period. Thank you! Boy, I didn't research this mark deep enough. I stopped after seeing the "H & S" mark example illustrated under Hart & Smith in Kovel. I think I did see the "H & S" under Hotchkiss & Schreuder but they showed it in circles and diamonds. Ensko shows Hart & Smith with H & S in one cartouche, p. 187. NY certainly makes more sense as state of origin instead of MD for these spoons to have reached the backwaters of CT. quote: The additional marks on both groups are typical NY state pseudo marks. Thank you! Glad to have this cleared up. I had heard about pseudo marks but hadn't any experience with them. quote: Just in case you need a structure for broadening your collection, here are the silversmiths in my project that are related, through her mother's side, to Anna Lucinda (and, in some measure, to you) Hmmm.let me see. I'm related to Anna Lucinda via her father, Chauncey WHITON *and* via her mother, Lucinda MOORE! Gee, her parents were 1st cousins. I have a direct MOORE line, direct WHITON line, BLISS line, and so forth and so on. Welllllll, it looks like I come by this silver interest honestly! It is in the genes. Wev, you are a person after my own heart! I'm deep into genealogy also. Genealogy certainly compliments an interest in silver research. My interests are early New England. Via Anna Lucinda's WHITON roots, we are: 2C 4xR - WHITON 6C 2xR - STRONG (Have 2 STRONG direct lines) 6C 3xR - STRONG 7C 2xR - STEBBINS 6C 4xR - DUNHAM 6C 5xR - IBROOK 7C 4xR - RIPLEY She qualifies as a gg aunt because she married one of my CHISM's gg uncles. She was a favorite aunt of my maternal grandmother - as well as a 2C2xR. I also have a WHITON c1750 CT maple highboy of Aunt Anna�s that came down to her from her g-grandfather on both her sides, Elijah WHITON, my 5th g-grandfather. I believe I also have deep silver roots via my 2 direct HUNTINGTON lines. All those Norwich, CT and VT HUNTINGTONS silversmiths came from the immigrant HUNTINGTON brothers Christopher/Simon/Thomas/William. Not sure of the origins of the NC/southern HUNTINGTONS. Both of my HUNTINGTON lines converged into my ggg grandmother, Sophia HUNTINGTON who md. Elisha BYLES. One of their daughters, Abigail BYLES, married into the WHITONS, Stephen WHITON - my gg grandparents. I have a coin serving spoon of Abigail BYLES: Wm. Rogers Sugar Shell Gee, with all the intermarriages of early New Englanders, I'm surprised we weren't all born with 5 legs, 1 eye and a brain the size of a pea. Hmmmmm at times I feel my brain is pea size. Love to know what genealogy database/program you are using for the silver db. I'm using TMG and at this moment have 18,000+/- documented people. No telling how many and the complexity of yours. I'm very much involved in the USGenWeb projects hosting the town of Plymouth, MA, and the towns of Windham, Mansfield, Norwich and New London, CT. Thank you very very much for your great messages! --- Susan IP: Logged
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 Registered: Apr 99	posted 06-11-2006 07:13 PM Yep, you will definately need a new dispaly cabinet, if you put that collection together. All the southern Huntingtons descend from Roswell, who was third cousin to your line of Philip and John. I use Legacy, which I have beta-tested since its release. I have also used TMG; outstanding capability, dreadfully designed. My full file is around 190,000 individuals in 30,000 families. I'm not related to any of them. IP: Logged
SusanT Posts: 104 Registered: Nov 2005	posted 06-12-2006 04:09 PM quote: All the southern Huntingtons descend from Roswell, who was third cousin to your line of Philip and John. Very interesting! quote: I use Legacy, which I have beta-tested since its release.[quote] Have heard glowing reports about it, never tried it. [quote]I have also used TMG; outstanding capability, ... Agree. quote: ...dreadfully designed. and partially agree. I have used TMG for nearly 15 years - since the DOS versions days. For over a decade it was the "cream of the crop." Now some have caught up and surpassed it in design but not in capacity. I know I should experiment with others but am getting to the point of hating to learn new tricks. quote: ... 190,000 individuals in 30,000 families. I'm not related to any of them. Hmmmm.... a bag of mixed blessings. The Bad: With the amount of early New England families involved in the craft in one way or another, 99% of those with early New England ancestry are probably related to one or more of these silver families. You have missed out on the possibility of having ancestry from God's country - New England! My husband (100% southern ancestry) agrees that New England is God's country saying, "God is the only one who would have it". <LOL> The Good: You probably have missed out on that small early New England gene pool - you don't have 1 eye, 5 legs and a pea brain! Thank you, for the info. --- Susan IP: Logged
Tad Hale Posts: 120 Registered: Jul 2005	posted 06-13-2006 05:18 PM There is a book entitled "Huntington Silversmiths 1763-1885" by William Johnston Hogan who is also a descendant of the Huntington's. This book traces the Huntington's from Norwich,Connecticut to Wilmington,North Carolina and then on to Marion Alabama. Tad IP: Logged
SusanT Posts: 104 Registered: Nov 2005	posted 06-13-2006 07:02 PM quote: "Huntington Silversmiths 1763-1885"... This book traces the Huntington's from Norwich,Connecticut to Wilmington,North Carolina and then on to Marion Alabama. Thank you for this information! I'm located in the the mid-south now and have had several people down here with HUNTINGTON links ask me if they are connected to the early New England ones. This would be a good source to check out to see if they are of the CT brood. --- Susan IP: Logged
bascall Posts: 1629 Registered: Nov 99	posted 10-31-2013 10:03 AM quote: Originally posted by wev: Vallet worked in Kingston c 1835-1850. Benjamin Franklin Vallet and son George are both listed in the 1850 Kingston census as jewelers. Benjamin died in 1852. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 10-31-2013).] IP: Logged

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