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muskoka1 Posts: 2 |
posted 02-15-2005 08:54 AM
  
[26-0126] My sauce boat and tray were passed to me via my great-grandmother. The only mark is on the underside of the boat and tray and looks like either a clam shell or a plume of feathers. There is a very faint number 49 on the bottom of the tray. Other than that I can't find any identifying marks. My grandmother was born c,1875. Please can anyone tell me about this piece? Thanks very much. IP: Logged |
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tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 02-15-2005 11:23 PM
One thing certain, your piece is not British sterling. Think that the mark is sheeves of wheat or anothr plant, but I have not been able to find a match. Do you have any idea where your grandmother got the piece? It may be silver plate. Any signs of other metal or coloring showing through the silver? Tom IP: Logged |
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muskoka1 Posts: 2 |
posted 02-16-2005 06:17 AM
Tom, Thanks for your reply. I couldn't say where my great-grandmother obtained the piece. It may have belonged to her mother. It did occur to me that it might be plate, but it is has obviously been very well used and regularly polished yet shows no sign of an underlying metal. The family originated in the Scottish Highlands and emigrated to Canada sometime around the 1840's. Hope this helps. IP: Logged |
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nihontochicken Posts: 289 |
posted 02-16-2005 11:36 AM
I note that your sauce boat resembles the one about which I inquired on the Silverplate Board. Link: Sauce Boat My boat has very little wear, but there is a slight bit of copper showing through on the bottom edges of the feet. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 02-16-2005 11:48 AM
I believe that is a mark used by Ellis-Barker Silver Companies of Birmingham, England to designate plated tablewares. In use c 1912. IP: Logged |
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Silver Lyon Posts: 363 |
posted 02-16-2005 01:22 PM
BARKER ELLIS it is - only the firm (under this title, and as far as I am aware, occasionally using this mark on EPNS pieces of high quality) only became styled thus in 1931 with the almagamation of Barker Brothers and Ellis & Co. Barker Brothers (and thus also by association Barker Ellis from 1931 but I don't know when it was closed) even had a showroom in New York from 1920... where they sold large quantities of EPNS of their own manufacture and a little silver. I am not stating categorically that the scallop shell type mark wasn't used before 1931 - only that I haven't seen it! The thought had crossed my mind, looking at the styles of the pieces with this mark (Not typical of pieces fashionable in Britain, and some looking 'Very American' that this might have been the 'made for the USA market' mark?). So the question could be "When did GGranny die?" [This message has been edited by Silver Lyon (edited 02-16-2005).] IP: Logged |
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nautilusjv Posts: 253 |
posted 11-30-2010 10:46 AM
The shell mark by Ellis-Barker was introduced in 1912. Does anyone know until when the mark was used? Do some of their marks indicate pieces made for sale in the USA or is there no distinction? Thanks! IP: Logged |
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