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burwoodhall Posts: 41 |
posted 10-21-2006 08:12 PM
  
[26-1237] This is a lovely small compote that was tarnished like silver and cleaned up like silver. It looks like it was used for ice cream or champaigne. To the eye it looks and feels like Silver and on the bottom has solder smudges that look like silver. It is hallmarked with a cross and Geo A. Ray Mfg Co Buffalo NY. He was in business in the early 1900's. All I can find on the internet relating to a George Ray Manufacturing Company of Buffalo NY relates to a law suit and he is not in any of the silver books. How can I tell if this is silver made by an independent silversmith? Is there a chemical test? GEO RAY MFG CO Buffalo NY with Cross IP: Logged |
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burwoodhall Posts: 41 |
posted 10-21-2006 08:15 PM
The picture posting seems to be working. Thank you all in advance for your feedback. I am using this as an ice cream service piece. It is lovely. Hilda IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 10-23-2006 09:28 AM
There are tests you can do to see if something is silver though most are destructive. However, the specific gravity test is non-destructive and it is described in other threads (it is more comlicated than the average person would be able to do on their own). I would not get my hopes up though in that I would bet dollars to donuts that your cup is silverplate. Modern (late 1800s to the present) American manufacturing companies have always been very, very careful to mark their sterling wares with the word Sterling or sometimes .925 or 925/1000 since this would have been one of the most important selling points (it still is on new silver). The "looks like, feels like, polishes like, etc." test doesn't really tell you much of anything in terms of what an object is made of since all you can see, feel, etc. on such an object is the surface which is where they put the silver on silver plated things. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 10-23-2006 09:51 AM
Any chance at all that the name is something other than Geo. "Ray." The Ray part of the image is pretty blurred for my eyes. Just a thought! IP: Logged |
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burwoodhall Posts: 41 |
posted 10-23-2006 11:47 AM
Yes, it is Geo. A. Ray which doesn't really show in the picture. Thanks. Hilda IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 10-27-2006 11:00 PM
George A Ray was a manufacturer of Hotel Ware in the 1930's in Buffalo, New York. He also manufactured copper ware. Ray having manufactured sterling ware seems unlikely, but of course not impossible either. IP: Logged |
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burwoodhall Posts: 41 |
posted 10-28-2006 01:26 AM
Thank you for the info. Where ever did you find it? Does your source indicate perhaps which hotel(s)? Also, any info on the little impressed cross, was that his hallmark or did it mean something else (a company that made it for him)? thank you again. Hilda IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 10-28-2006 10:41 PM
George A Ray of Buffalo, New York is in the U. S. census's, and city directories. It seems most likely that he made hotel ware for any and all that were willing to pay his price. He was a manufacturer, so he must have made his own product. I cannot tell you anything about the cross for sure, but it's easy to imagine that it is just decoration and along the lines of a pseudo hallmark. IP: Logged |
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 10-30-2006 08:15 AM
If this was made during the 30s it would have been marked sterling, so my guess is that it is not. IP: Logged |
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