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T-Bird-Art Posts: 143 Registered: Mar 2000	posted 03-05-2003 12:21 PM [01-0998 21-0322] Meriden Britannia Company was "absorbed" into International Silver around 1898. Question: Did International Silver continue to use the Hallmark of Meriden Britannia Silver after 1898 ? Can I assume any piece hallmarked Meriden B Company (with the Scales ) was manufactured prior to 1900? Thanks IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 03-06-2003 04:55 PM quote: Meriden Britannia Company was "absorbed" into International Silver around 1898. Actually, The Meriden Britannia Co. officers led the formation of the International Silver Co., which was formed in November 1898. quote: Did International Silver continue to use the Hallmark of Meriden Britannia Silver after 1898? Rainwater indicates that International continued to use the trademarks of its predecessors. Neither firm used hallmarks. quote: Can I assume any piece hallmarked Meriden B Company (with the Scales ) was manufactured prior to 1900? I haven't found anything that would support such an assumption. Has anyone? [This message has been edited by Stephen (edited 03-06-2003).] IP: Logged
T-Bird-Art Posts: 143 Registered: Mar 2000	posted 03-07-2003 08:11 AM If Meriden B Co piece was manufactred under the roof of International Silver Co , would the trademark IS be impressed on the piece? Thanks Just found this mark showing International Silver Co subsidiary in Canada using a combined Meriden Britannica Co and International Silver mark sometime after 1898. IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 03-07-2003 06:47 PM Are you talking about sterling flatware, sterling holloware, silver-plated flatware, silver-plated holloware, something else, or all of the above? IP: Logged
T-Bird-Art Posts: 143 Registered: Mar 2000	posted 03-08-2003 06:32 AM Silver plated hollowware with the scales & "Meriden B Company" in the round trademark. Thanks IP: Logged
T-Bird-Art Posts: 143 Registered: Mar 2000	posted 03-08-2003 07:10 AM Here is picture of Silver Plate item: Recent March 2003 eBay Auction Description where I got this piece. quote: Here is a unique and very impressive Victorian silverplate tilting water pitcher Circa 1868. The overall height of this elegant piece from the bottom of the stand to the top of the pitcher is 16". The pitcher standing alone has a height of 12". The bottom of the pitcher has Trademark Meriden Britannia Company , Meriden Conn. 1854-1898 and has the following two patent dates: June 13, 1868 and Nov 3,1868. The stand and cup are also have Trademark with Meriden B Company. The pitcher has its original porcelain liner interior in excellent condition; no chips, scratches or stains, a nice clean white color. There is minimal plate loss. All in all, this is a gorgeous and impressive piece of Victorian Silverplate Hollowware. IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 03-08-2003 10:22 AM quote: Originally posted by T-Bird-Art: If Meriden B Co piece was manufactred under the roof of International Silver Co , would the trademark IS be impressed on the piece? Thanks I haven't seen such a piece, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. I'd date your ice-pitcher from somewhere between 1868 (when the patents were issued) and 1882 (when the patents would have expired.) A more precise date would require finding the Meriden B. catalogs for those years and locating your item. Your item most likely has the catalog number stamped on the pieces below the circle trademark. IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 03-08-2003 10:40 AM Also note that Meriden B. catalog numbers don't indicate the year of manufacture. For example, the 1873 catalog lists tea sets numbered 1883 through 1887. The numbers weren't assigned sequentially. Later catalogs may have lower numbers than earlier catalogs. Also, the same numbers were reused on totally different kinds of items, sometimes even in the same catalog. IP: Logged
T-Bird-Art Posts: 143 Registered: Mar 2000	posted 03-08-2003 04:51 PM OK Scott & Stephen thanks so much for your inputs. I just got a copy of the 1878 Meriden Britannia Co. catalog and see No. 193 "CHASED ICE PITCHER SET" with my pattern. Complete set $42.00 includes Pitcher $15., 16 " waiter $15., two Gold Lined Goblets $3.50 ea. Slop Bowl, Gold Lined $5. What I have they called a "Chased Tilting Set, Complete". Tilting Sets went for $42 ! My Tilting Set is not shown in this catalog but is No. 27 as the catalog says and the number is right where you'al said it was , under the trademark . Good Grief----now the hunt for the matching ICE PITCHER SET No. 193. [This message has been edited by T-Bird-Art (edited 03-09-2003).] IP: Logged
T-Bird-Art Posts: 143 Registered: Mar 2000	posted 03-10-2003 09:37 PM quote: Originally posted by Stephen: [QUOTE]Originally posted by T-Bird-Art: [b]If Meriden B Co piece was manufactred under the roof of International Silver Co , would the trademark IS be impressed on the piece? Thanks I haven't seen such a piece, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. STEPHEN: Found this internet page where Silver Shop says Sterling pieces made by International Silver carried Meriden B. mark into 1930's I'd date your ice-pitcher from somewhere between 1868 (when the patents were issued) and 1882 (when the patents would have expired.) A more precise date would require finding the Meriden B. catalogs for those years and locating your item. Your item most likely has the catalog number stamped on the pieces below the circle trademark. IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 03-11-2003 01:46 AM Rainwater indicates that this is true for Meriden B. Co.'s sterling: quote: In 1895 M. B. Co. bought out a small silversmith's shop in New York being run by Wilcox & Evertson, successors to Rowan & Wilcox, making a quality line of sterling silver holloware, and moved it to Meriden. This was the start of a representative silver holloware line which in 1898 was taken over by the International Silver Company. In 1897 M. B. Co. produced its first sterling silver flatware pattern, Revere. M. B. Co. marks were used until the 1930s. IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 03-11-2003 02:57 AM Hard to tell what the mark is from that seller's photo. [This message has been edited by Stephen (edited 03-11-2003).] IP: Logged
T-Bird-Art Posts: 143 Registered: Mar 2000	posted 03-20-2003 07:48 PM Just found a Web Site showing the Meriden Britannia Company name being carried in International Silver advertisements into the 1900's IP: Logged

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