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MSev519

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iconnumber posted 02-24-2009 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSev519     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I bought this tankard around six months ago, but haven't made any progress in identifying it's maker.

The photo taken is hard to make out, but the mark is in a basic "shield" type shape with the inscription "Santiago Estanho Puro 97.5%" and "Portugal" written directly below the "shield."

The design on the front appears to have a lion, some vines?, a castle, and flowers.

It weighs about 3.5 pounds and stands at approximately 8".

Any insight into who might have crafted this tankard, or it's area of origin would be greatly appreciated.

My interest is in THIS piece of silver for the moment. I do own two or three other pieces, but nothing as nice as this.

What I hope to learn from my question, "who is the maker and/or area of origin?" is this... The maker and/or area of origin.

What is my purpose in asking? I'm curious to find out the answer.
Thanks.


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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 02-25-2009 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello to you,
I'm sorry but it looks like a shining pewter jug to me. Pewter materials are also made in various alloys. Mostly between 90-100, The pattern of the jug is nice! It's the pattern of a older one. That's my thought when I see the soft grey glance of it or I must be wrong?
Greetings Silverhunter from Holland.

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 02-25-2009 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you research the name you get the answer-
Fabricatos e exportadores de produtos de Cortica. Pewter!

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MSev519

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iconnumber posted 02-25-2009 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSev519     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silverhunter,

Thanks for your quick response! Where exactly did you look up the description? I've been searching all over Yahoo & Google and haven't found anything remotely close to the phrase you gave me.

Silver pewter huh? When it says 97.5% does that mean it's 97.5% pewter & 2.5% some other alloy or 97.5% silver and 2.5% pewter? Can hot liquids touch pewter without the adverse side effects of touching silver?

Regarding the pattern. What era do you think it's from? Educated guess. Anything will help as I'm new to this.

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 02-25-2009 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can try for instance Santiago Estharo pewter, a lot of sites are shown about the name. Silver hasn't a indication with 97,5 (like it is on your tankard(s). Or I must be wrong and what about the other silver marks?

I also collect pewter and if you polish(what you never must do with old one's)it will looks like silver but it has another shine.

People also polish old copper, bronze material and that has a negative value
opinion by auction holders.

I hope you didn't paid the price for the value you think they are priced?
It's personal but the dark patina I prefer above the imitated shining old styles.

The pattern of the tankard is earlier than the shining one you have bought or was given by family. It looks like a copy of German pattern around 1850.

A lot of tankard owners/users drink beer, cherio!

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MSev519

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iconnumber posted 02-25-2009 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSev519     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it esthano? I tried it on Yahoo and didn't get any relevant matches.

That is very informative. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

Do you know of where I could buy a silver testing kit? A hobby shop maybe?

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adelapt

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iconnumber posted 02-25-2009 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adelapt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You won't need a silver testing kit for that one. "Estanho" is Portuguese for the metal tin, and the stamps indicate that your pewter tankard is of an alloy which is 97.5% tin.

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