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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 12-01-2005 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It has been a while since my last Whatzit post. I came across these while going through a 1890 Gorham catalog.

As usual if you know please let those who want to guess an opportunity to post first.

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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 12-01-2005 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few months ago I saw a rather unforgetable television program on body piercing etc. One guy had metal studs drilled into his skull - they would have been a whole lot cooler in Gorham sterling.

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outwest

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iconnumber posted 12-01-2005 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drawer pulls...no, there is no back to them.
Cork tops to make your wine bottles prettier?

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Hollowware finials.
Tea pots, covered bowl and such.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 12-01-2005 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drapery pullbacks

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iconnumber posted 12-01-2005 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Labour intensive corn cob holders

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Clive E Taylor

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Corkscrews for teetotalers

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 12-01-2005 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They look like wood screws, so I think they might have been the decorative ends for Curtain or drappery poles.

Tom

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iconnumber posted 12-02-2005 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jt251     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll cast my vote for holloware finials too. I have an English piece circa 1890s with a screw on finial on the lid. It is attached with a tiny wing nut containing the lion passant and another hallmark (I can't remember which one). I've always been curious as to why these were made this way. Anyone know?

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Except that these have wood screws as indicated by the thread and the point at the end. They are not designed for a wing nut.

Tom

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Maybe they're curtain rod ends, but who would want to climb up on a ladder and polish them? That's not very practical.

After looking at them again I think they could be drawer pulls for small, light use drawers.

Or the fancy winebottle corktop.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 12-03-2005 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps they are for large pieces of fruit. The piece could be lifted from a buffet, and then cut and served.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 12-03-2005 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it time for a hint or the answer?

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 12-03-2005 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if your rich enough to have silver curtain rod decorations, your servants would polish them.

Yes, give us that hint!

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Scott Martin
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I have heard dealers selling them for all of the above including for pulling the little cork stoppers in perfume bottles. Those who are exploring the food angle are in line with the Gorham catalogue.

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iconnumber posted 12-03-2005 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hint : Another "whatzit" which also has been discussed on this forum -- both are for the same food.

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They could be used for holding cheese while cutting with a knife or scooping with a cheese scoop. Of course scooping would only be for Stilton.

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Corn cob holders!

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Scott Martin
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Since the thread is getting long and we have corn holders twice, on the 1st and the 4th, it would appear it is time for the answer.

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Oh, puleeese rolleyes

I guess I should have guessed something to do with a cheese ball (and cheese ball holder?). It really is too funny. Cheese must have been a big deal to those Victorians. Would you carry your cheese ball around with you this way? smile

Or perhaps if you had a cheese ball screw you could do away with that cheese ball holder.

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The containers for cheese used in Victorian times are slightly larger than a modern cake holder with lid. People bought cheese in rounds, which weighed about 20 pounds. The round sat somewhere cool, hopefully, and cheese was cut into wedges as needed. A set of these lifters could assure that the wedges were pretty much uniform in size. Arrange them around the round of cheese symetrically and get the number of wedges needed. Eight would make sense, as that is an easy number to cut visually. And the lifter helped make sure that human hands did not touch the cheese itself. Which was a concern before the ready availibility of hot water.

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Paul Lemieux

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Judging from the infrequency with which these appear on the market, I would say they were rather unpopular. I have never seen any of those shown in the 1890 catalog in person. I hope someday to stumble on an old chest of drawers for which somebody mistakenly used 6 Gorham sterling cheese knobs as replacement drawer pulls smile

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