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jersey

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2008 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all.

Just curious, are there any examples of Andronicus a 5th century silversmiths work?

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iconnumber posted 04-19-2008 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
agphile posted 04-19-2008 07:22 AM in the New members' Forum
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Jersey

I can't lay my hands on the reference to Andronicus. I assume it crops up somewhere in Roman literature or history, but the answer is that his work probably doesn't survive - or cannot be identified if it does.

About 1500 pieces of late Roman and early Byzantine silver are known to survive. Of these, some 200 have control stamps which identify the Emperor and various officials but do not reveal the actual maker.

Occasionally a maker can be identified from an inscription. Thus two dishes in the 4th century Kaiseraugst hoard are inscribed by Euticius of Naissus and Pasylypus of Thessalonike respectively.

More usually the inscription will identify an owner. A couple of my spoons which are probably 6th rather than 5th century have monograms that probably relate to the original owner as well as inscribed crosses and saint's names - Thomas on one and Michael on the other.

Sorry if this does not shed the light you would like!

David


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jersey

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iconnumber posted 06-24-2008 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As an aside, is this not too cool!

There is a Patron Saint of Silversmiths...
And his name is:

    St. Andronicus
    Died: 5th century
    Feastday: October 9

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ellabee

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iconnumber posted 06-24-2008 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellabee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We should observe October 9th this year on the forum!

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 06-25-2008 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And yet another from the other side of the pond.

May 19th.

Love this story!

St. Dunstan, the 10th century English saint, born near Glastonbury England. A man of the church, scholar and statesman, he gave up the worldly pleasures of the court of King Athelstan to become a monk in Glastonbury. Known for his skill with metals he is considered by many silversmiths to be their patron saint. It is storied that Dunstan, tempted by the Devil while working at his forge, seized the devil's nose with his red-hot tongs.

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iconnumber posted 06-25-2008 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See this thread (18th Century Handwriting/ Wills) for more on St. Dunstan's day. (The included link in the aforementioned thread is the same as the one cited below by Scott).

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iconnumber posted 06-25-2008 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI

Saint Dunstan & The Devil

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 06-25-2008 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well thank you Scott & Swarter for that!
Sorry, I should have searched before I posted.

Jersey

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