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ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 05-22-2008 04:23 PM
[01-2657] My interest in silver has me seeing familiar events in new ways. I've been a hockey fan for decades, and have become a much more committed and knowledgeable one through contact with my partner's Canadian-Michigan family, which includes a National Hockey League general manager. Every May, I've watched the western conference finals, including the ceremony in which the trophy is awarded to the winning team. This year, as in quite a few years past, the winners are our beloved Detroit Red Wings -- but for the first time, my attention was focused not on the players but on the trophy itself.
Despite its official name, the Clarence S. Campbell Bowl is a cup. (In an odd parallel, the much more well-known Stanley Cup is actually a bowl.) The trophy is a covered two-handled cup of the form known as the loving cup or grace cup in 17th century Britain, which came into use as an ecclesiastical piece in North America in the 1700s and, in a larger form, as a presentation item.
In its basic outlines and scale, the Campbell cup greatly resembles a well-known piece of American presentation silver: the 1744 Tyng cup by Jacob Hurd, a masterwork of Queen Anne style in the Garvan collection at Yale. (It, like every item (!) in the Yale University Art Gallery, can be seen online by searching here; enter 1932.48a-b in the accession number field.) The Tyng cup is also pictured on the frontispiece and on p. 94 of Silver in American Life (Barbara and Gerald Ward, eds, 1979), and probably in other catalogs of and books about the Garvan collection.
The surface of the Campbell trophy, though, is heavily decorated; no surprise, given that it was made by a British silversmith in 1878, the height of the Victorian era. The style of the decoration is a combination of rococo and Empire revival -- applied and engraved leaves, both stylized and figural, along with scrolls and floral motifs. The Campbell has only been awarded since 1968, and was given to the league then -- by whom, I can only guess. Most other NHL trophies were made at the time of and for the specific purpose of their first awarding. This one was already in the possession of someone, probably someone Canadian, most likely someone from British Columbia. A trip to the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto might enlighten, but I wouldn't count on it. The curators there are far more likely to focus on the object's hockey history than its provenance. Until I'm able to pass on more about the cup's physical history, here's a bit more of just such lore: The photo at the link in the first paragraph is included for purposes of establishing scale, but it also illustrates a recently developed superstitious tradition among players. Note that Nick Lidstrom is standing near the Campbell trophy, but not touching it. In 1995, the first time the Red Wings won the western conference, captain Steve Yzerman held up the trophy for photographers as is normal in such situations. But in the Stanley Cup finals that followed, the team was swept by the eastern conference winners. When the Wings next won the conference, two years later, Yzerman adopted the stance pictured, declining to touch the trophy. The Red Wings won the Stanley Cup that year, for the first time in 44 years, and since then no player has touched the Campbell trophy until after the finals. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 05-22-2008 07:39 PM
Hello fellow hockey lover! A Devils fan myself (too bad we lost). There is much on the internet about the Campbell Bowl. The no touch "rule" is much the same for the Prince of Wales trophy for our division. A beautiful piece as well. The lore is that to raise and celebrate a lesser cup, is to suggest to the hockey gods and leprechauns et. al, is that you are already content with your current win. For those who aim higher, they wait until they have gotten something worth celebrating i.e., the Lord Stanley Cup. Due to my friendships, I have to go with Pittsburg, only because the Devils aren't in it, (Brodeur still rules)! I am glad though that Detroit won their division. Good luck to both of us! Jersey IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 05-22-2008 07:55 PM
Thanks, jersey; I figured this would roust the hockey fans on the forum if there were any. :> My brother-in-law traded Marian Hossa to Pittsburgh after it became clear he wouldn't resign with Atlanta. Painful decision. I'm a huge fan of Hossa's, and he's showed what he's capable of in the playoffs so far; he's made up for repeated postseason disappointments with Ottawa. But I can't root for him against the Wings. In our family, it's just Not Done. If any Canadians are reading along: any ideas about who donated the Campbell trophy? Or the maker? The hallmarks are probably underneath the base, not visible in the Hall of Fame display, but if you're close enough to visit, try asking... IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 05-22-2008 08:36 PM
Here you go! The Clarence S. Campbell Bowl, or the Campbell Trophy, is the National Hockey League trophy awarded to the Western Conference playoff champions. Named after Clarence S. Campbell, who served as President of the NHL from 1946-47 to 1976-77. The trophy itself is constructed of sterling silver, crafted in 1878 by a British silversmith. I am still trying to find out the smith. Perhaps one of our English forum members can find out who he/she was. The Detroit Red Wings are the current holders as you know. Odd that it's us girls that are the hockey fans~! Jersey IP: Logged |
dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 05-23-2008 01:44 PM
Well, add me to the all-girl hockey fan club, was lucky enough to be at the final 2001 game of the old IHL, and watched my beloved Orlando Solar Bears win the Turner Cup (apparently its third incarnation), retired at that point, the name was brought back into use by the new IHL last year (new trophy has a 6-tiered rather than 8-tiered base). ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 05-23-2008 03:30 PM
Cheryl, my brother-in-law was the founding GM of the Solar Bears! We were so sad to see the league evaporate, and especially sorry that the SBs weren't one of the teams that continued in the AHL. It was bittersweet that they won the last Turner Cup. The BIL made his career in the I (Flint Generals, Saginaw Gears, Toledo Goal Diggers, founding GM of the San Diego Gulls) before he got hired by the big show. Very interesting news about the new incarnation of the Turner Cup (another cup that's really a bowl). The first thing that struck me in the photo at your link (of the "real" one at the Hall of Fame) is all the blank space on the bottom tiers... mournful blankness. What happened to the first incarnation of the Turner Cup, do you know? Was it the same form? The NHL silver has some real highs and lows. The Conn Smythe trophy is to me the best by far for its originality, distinctiveness, and meaningful symbolism -- but I wonder how it strikes silver connoisseurs as a use of the medium. Some of the others are just plain hideous (what were they thinking when they changed the Hart?). The biggest surprise was the Monteith bowl that's the Selke. It strikes me as girly; what must it seem like to hockey players? IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 05-23-2008 05:28 PM
All of the "real" trophies are at the Hall. Replicas are given to the winners in theri various categories. That surprised me. Even the Stanley Cup that Mikey tours with & is given to all the players and coaches etc. on the winning team for a day to bring to their families is NOT the "real" one. What wild stories THAT cup can tell. If I knew how to do the post photos thing I'd post a picture of me & the Cup. Someday soon I hope. The Vezina is a pretty formidable piece as well. Who are you rooting for in the playoffs Cheryl? BTW you live I think, not too far from several HOF older players. Jersey [This message has been edited by jersey (edited 05-23-2008).] IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 05-23-2008 06:28 PM
quote: My partner and I still kick ourselves that we passed up the chance to go hold that cup when the BIL had it for his day in the summer of 1998. It was supposed to be a little family party at a sibling's house in a downriver Detroit town. Word of the Cup's arrival got around within minutes via cop radio and word of mouth, so hundreds of people stopped by that afternoon. My absolute favorite "what ___ did with the Cup" story is Chris Simon: he took it out fishing with his grandfather. (They're First Nations.) IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 05-23-2008 07:21 PM
Aside from one I can't tell. I love the one of Brodeur eating popcorn from it at a movie theater with his kids & toasting marshmallows from it at his home in Canada. MM good eats! Jersey IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-05-2008 07:42 PM
Ellabee! Congratulations to your Detroit Red Wings! Great games. Did you see Mikey (the blond) bring in the Stanley Cup? Now maybe you can see it & hold it too, along with Zetterberg's Conn Smythe! I'm Hoping for Brodeur's 4th Vezina too! One for each of the children. Can't wait for next season..........rooting for the Yankees for the summer season. Jersey IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 06-06-2008 05:43 AM
Thanks, jersey! It was fun to see -- all the sweeter after the frustration of the previous game. 34 seconds from the Cup in Detroit, and they let it slip away. Sadly, the brother-in-law was only with the Wings for that one year, so I'll have no more chance than the average fan to visit the 35-pound hunk of silver. We blew what might have been our only chance in 1998. Re the Conn Smythe: I don't think any previous winners have celebrated with it quite as, um, energetically as Zetterberg did. That maple leaf is flimsier than it looks from the front! I'd recommend the league spring for some reinforcing bars if the on-ice hoisting becomes a tradition. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-13-2008 09:48 PM
Well ellabee! Congratulations to Detroit for the awards their guys got: Lindstrom-Norris/Datsyuk-Selke & byng/Hasek-Jennings. Love the Byng! BUT..........My Marty got his 4th. Vezina! that one is I guess for Annabelle. I am a happy camper. It was a squeeker, but a win is a win. On to next year. So sad about Tim Russert the NBC reporter & a great Buffalo NY native son, & Buffalo Sabres Fan. May we all live a good life today, because tomorrow may never come! Jersey IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 07-18-2008 07:51 PM
Following the link in Scott's thread (Tiffany cylindrical coffeepot with free-floating dragonflies) on the silver in the Detroit Institute of Arts, I did a search on 'silver' and browsed. What to my wondering eyes should appear:
Two-handled loving cup by Benjamin Godfrey, England, 1737-8. The similarities to the Campbell Cup, reportedly made 140 years later, are remarkable. If not for the handles, they'd be almost identical. This cup was acquired by the DIA in 1971 (if I'm interpreting the accession numbers correctly), three years after the CC began to be awarded. Hmmmm. Hockeytown's museum. Coincidence...? IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 07-18-2008 08:03 PM
The longer I look at them side by side, the more little differences pop out at me, but still... I particularly like the 'bound reeding' effect separating the upper and lower halves of the cup's body. There's a French piece in the museum's collection from the exact same period with a similar motif; the French example uses fasces with the crossed-strap binding. [This message has been edited by ellabee (edited 07-18-2008).] IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 03-12-2009 08:52 PM
Hi Ellabee! That time of year again! Just an FYI. Here's an opportunity for you if you care to take the trip. OR you can hope Detroit wins again & you can go there. Be nice to have my Devils play you. Stanley Cup to be at Devils' alumni charity game on Sunday March 15, 2009. The Stanley Cup will be on hand for the Devils Alumni Charity Hockey Classic Sunday at Bridgewater (NJ) Sports Arena. The Devils alumni will take on The Bomber Hockey Club in a game beginning at 3:30 p.m. Former Devils scheduled to play include Chico Resch, Bruce Driver, Jim Dowd, Grant Marshall, Randy Velischek, Sergei Starikov and Rob Skrlac. Fans will be able to have their photos taken with the Stanley Cup. Proceeds will benefit the Raritan Valley Habitat for Humanity. Cost is $20. Jersey IP: Logged |
Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 03-13-2009 12:09 PM
Hockey is great! The Red Wings and Devils are okay, but the team to watch this year is the Capitals. I think Alex Ovetchkin is the clear choice for the Hart Trophy (League MVP) again this year. He already has 48 goals as of today, 8 more than his nearest competition, Zach Parise from the Devils. Also, the excitement he adds by the incredible skill and showmanship he uses in putting the biscuit in the basket is bringing a great deal of interest back into the sport. Short videos of his goals are now being posted and widely watched on the internet. I've been to the Hockey Hall of Fame and seen the trophies. I found it interesting that the older ones are being constantly adjusted. For example the rings that are added to the base of the Stanley cup where they engrave the team names and all of the player names get filled up after a few years requiring more rings to be added. Rather than just keep adding more and more rings to the bottom which would make the trophy grow into tree-like proportions they take off old ones and retire them to make room for new ones. [This message has been edited by Kimo (edited 03-13-2009).] IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 03-13-2009 01:23 PM
Hi Kimo! Welcome to the club. BTW Zach is a very nice young man as well. Maybe next year will be his, I doubt he will beat Ovetchkin this year but he is certainly giving it his best shot (pun intended). Jersey IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 03-14-2009 09:47 AM
Hey, hockey and hockey trophy fans. The brother-in-law's team is playing great of late, but they were so stinky earlier that there's no chance for playoffs unless we win every game the rest of the way. So I'll be rooting for Ovechkin and company to go a little further than last year. He is a ton of fun to watch. New NHL trophies are fun to think about. The b-i-l's most prized trophy is an MVP award from a world juniors tournament decades ago, when it was in Montreal. MVP for a single game, not the whole tournament -- but Gretzky was in the game, so it's an achievement. The trophy's substantial: a stylized cast 3-D seal (the animal) in metal (nickel? aluminum?), about ten inches long on a chunk of granite. I've always wondered about the tournament MVP prize, given what an impressive piece this was. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 03-14-2009 06:17 PM
Hi ellabee! Happy to hear about "your" teams current success, nothing like winning, Does the Trophy you are speaking about have a specific name? Love to see it. As you know for me tonight is a big night for my Devils. I am a wreck & holding my breath. Jersey IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 03-14-2009 07:44 PM
I don't think the World Junior Championships have named any of their tournament trophies. This one, since the Montreal hosts produced it, says it's for (if I remember correctly) 'Le Joueur du Match'. Best wishes to your amazing netminder tonight! IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 03-14-2009 10:01 PM
Oh YES! He did it! I am tickled pink to be his friend! They all did well breaking other records as well. My Godson from Chicago is a Blackhawk's fan, hoping he will be here for a visit on Tuesday! I'll see what I can find out about your Juniors trophy. I found some other interesting Trophys as well. Will post later on. Glad to see Detroit won too! Jersey IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 03-17-2009 09:43 PM
Sorry Scott, too be off topic but I thank you for allowing me to do my thing! What a glorious win for Marty! Maybe a Sterling silver puck would be in order! Jersey IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 05-27-2009 12:46 PM
The Red Wings are poised to win the Campbell Cup again tonight; if they do, Nick Lidstrom will probably once again stand near but not touch it. But in the Eastern Conference, the grip of superstition has been broken -- for now. Last year, captain Sidney Crosby took the "traditional" stance with the Prince of Wales trophy, but it did his Penguins no good as they fell to the Wings in the finals.
So when Pittsburgh eliminated Carolina last night in the conference final, Crosby enthusiastically grasped and lifted the trophy. This pleased not only photographers and rational skeptics, but also those who think silver should be enjoyed rather than simply put on display.
Update: My original account of how the "tradition" of not touching the cup started is belied by the evidence supplied in several hockey blog posts, which show that Yzerman hoisted the Campbell Cup in both 1997 and 1998. One such post also documents the rather inconsistent upholding of the superstition since; a notably successful punctuation was by Scott Stevens of Jersey's beloved Devils in 2003. If Crosby's team wins the Stanley Cup this year, it could be curtains for this lame "tradition" -- one cold, silvery consolation for this Wings fan. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 05-27-2012 11:12 AM
The Devils finally did it! Henrique beats Henrik! It was delicious to watch, aside from giving me & the other fans a small heart attack! Nice to see the Prince of Wales trophy again. Marty was marvelous! Hoping to see Lord Stanley again! Jersey IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 05-31-2015 11:33 AM
It's Campbell Cup time once again, and USA Today has a whole on the no-touch superstition, being observed in the accompanying photo by the entire team: quote: A crucial goal to win the Campbell Cup was scored by the ageless Marian Hossa late in the second period (um, yes, Anaheim fans, it looked like a kicking motion to me, too; albeit a very smoooth one). "Too old" for some GMs in 2008, Hossa's still contributing to big wins... IP: Logged |
dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 05-31-2015 04:28 PM
Who're you rooting for this year? Hard one for me, a Chicagoan before settling in Central Florida... ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
doc Posts: 728 |
posted 06-01-2015 09:03 PM
As a proud University of Maine alum, I have been cheering for fellow alum Ben Bishop and the Tampa Bay Lightning. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-10-2015 06:56 PM
Hi Cheryl, As you may have guessed I'm going with the Hawks! Just to let you know also my Retired netminder is well & loving the Midwest & it's people! Jersey IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-15-2015 11:00 PM
Hawks did it! My Johnny did good! Great game from both teams, too bad someone had to lose! Jersey IP: Logged |
ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 06-22-2015 10:53 AM
Johnny Oduya was one of the reasons we were rooting for the 'hawks (because he'd been a Thrasher/Jet). Great series! And great silver... IP: Logged |
doc Posts: 728 |
posted 06-22-2015 08:04 PM
Did anyone happen to see the end of the US Open golf tournament yesterday? They had some nice closeups of the trophy, and it's just lovely-great Arts & Crafts style lettering on it. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-25-2015 10:07 PM
Hello Ellabee! BTW John enjoyed being in Atlanta very much. He likes warm weather. I know he also loves Chicago for other reasons than the weather & I hope he gets resigned. He's on vacation now, Thank you for being a fan, I'll be sure to tell him. Jersey IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-25-2015 10:13 PM
Hello Doc, That is a nice trophy. It was I believe originally made by Gorham & in 1946 was destroyed in a fire. It was subsequently reproduced by Spalding. It is now housed in a museum in Fall Hills N.J. Jersey IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 07-15-2015 05:04 PM
Well Hockey fans I am still a Devils, & Hawks fan. Adding to my list is St. Louis Blues & now Dallas. Ellabee I may now have to give up one of my Tiffany stars to Johnny O. Heard from him today & new Stars shirt is promised to me when it gets done. Said to tell you thanks for your support! He'd still rather be in Chicago But he said at least Dallas is warm. & he'll do his best there. Hope to see him over New Years. Jersey IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 05-24-2016 10:25 AM
Still hoping the Blues can pull it off this year. They have been in more playoff appearances than any other team without winning a championship. They even made the Wall Street Journel for that. [This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 05-24-2016).] IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 05-25-2016 02:45 PM
Hi awht! That makes 2 of us rooting for the Blues. I've been walking around with my signed Blues shirt all day. Sticks crossed! To Doc I would consider Tampa but my Penquins fan friend would unfriend me...LOL! Jersey IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 06-12-2019 11:39 PM
A note must be made that St. Louis Blues won the Stanley Cup this year. It was 51 years in the making and I know the players and fans will cherish this victory. The St. Louis fans could see the game on the TV at Busch Stadium. [This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 06-12-2019).] [This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 06-13-2019).] IP: Logged |
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