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Marc

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iconnumber posted 10-15-2008 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi once again..

Here is another unknown for me.. In this case it is the pattern. This neat heavy duty cheese scoop is only stamped "STERLING" on the back where the handle meets the blade. I have looked through my pattern books, and have not found a pattern that satisfies me. The pattern appears to be 1880's or 90's and is stamped. There is an absolutely wonderful hand engraved monogram on the back of the handle

I thought maybe it was "Arlington" by Towle, or "Delhi" by Gorham, but the shape wasn't quite right. Also there are not many patterns that have a twist handle. Maybe Duhme?..

Or, perhaps it is a limited production piece that wasn't catalogued. Scott, would this be listed in your book?

Thanks for all your help.

Marc

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 10-15-2008 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The decoration looks like stawberry blossoms and leaves which is probably fairly obvious. Sorry no actual help here.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-15-2008 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good looking Stilton Scoop. June thinks we have one which is also unmarked. Being without a makers mark it will be some time before we add such to our Book of Silver project. But someday we will.

I like the engraving.

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 10-15-2008 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marc:

I'm sure you've already considered this, but my immediate impulse would be to investigate Baltimore makers who specialized in repoussé, such as S. Kirk & Son, the Stieff Company, or Schofield Co.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 10-16-2008 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a very interesting engraving on the back. I think it is a creatively done monogram - perhaps CR or maybe CB?

[This message has been edited by Kimo (edited 10-16-2008).]

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 10-16-2008 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I vote for CR. Good obserevation, Kimo.

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 10-17-2008 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott, you called this a Stilton cheese scoop. I haven't thought much before about various cheese implements, but now you've sparked my curiosity. (I would think it would stick in the scoop. smile ) Are there other implements that you know of that are specific to one variety of cheese?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-17-2008 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Stilton Scoop, even the ones with a push, are not serving pieces buy rather they are preparation at table utensils.

In the Book of Silver we have devoted 3 pages to Stilton Cheese and the Stilton scoop. Briefly, take a wheel of Stilton Cheese (approx. 6 inches in diameter) and cut off the rine top revealing a properly veined cheese. The Stilton Scoop is then pushed into the center of the wheel, all the while twisting and turning the scoop. This action causes the properly veined cheese to break up into serving sized morsels. This causes the cheese's vein to be on the outside of the morsel. And that allows the vein to touch the tongue first thereby greatly enhancing the flavor of the cheese.

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Dale

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Looking at this, I wonder if it is die stamped or hand work. In handling the scoop, does it have any traces of hand work? The twisted part makes me think of Duhme.

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 10-20-2008 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dale, and Scott,

As much as I would like to say hand worked, this heavy duty cheese scoop has a die struck pattern. And, yes, I thought Duhme also. Might be.. The piece is stiff, but that is due to the gauge of the silver.

And it was used.. The gold wash is worn off the tip. A whole lot of cheese scooping to do that.. Yum.. Thanks for the description Scott.

The scoop came in a large lot of neat 1870's and 80's pieces. There was also a batch of "Odd Fellows" medallions, in sterling silver, unengraved, that I thought had some merit, from the 1920's or so, that I rescued.

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 10-20-2008 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Scott, I learned something new once again. So much for stabbing the Stilton with a knife.

Is there a reason why this scoop is gold-washed? Something in the cheese that would promote tarnish? Goldwashes in general puzzle me.....I don't understand why, for example, they're common on creamers.

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taloncrest

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I've always assumed that milkfat could cause black spots of corrosion on creamers, which would be prevented by the gilding.

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rian

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iconnumber posted 10-21-2008 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Milk is not exactly neutral but very slightly acidic and perhaps as it sours becomes more so. So goldwash in a creamer might be useful to protect against tarnish.

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carlaz

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iconnumber posted 10-23-2008 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carlaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the November/December 2008 issue of Silver Magazine, there is a great article on Stilton Cheese Scoops (as well as a brief but interesting history of the cheese itself) by Dale E. Bennett if you are looking to learn more about the various cheese scoops made.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 10-24-2008 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Milk tends to absorb odors and flavors rather easily.

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 10-24-2008 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,

Gold wash, or plating, on silver was done for two reasons.

#1.. Protection of silver.. Because silver is much more reactive than gold, the gold plating provides a barrier that oxidizers (salts and acids) cannot penetrate.

#2.. Decorative. The contrast of silver with gold highlights can be appreciated by all.

Marc

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 10-25-2008 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Over the years, I heard customers look at cheese scoops and call them:

Melon Ball Servers

Cottage Cheese Servers

Caviar Servers

Melon Servers

Grated Cheese Servers

Salad Bar Servers

Inexpensive ones were a sure sell to people who did buffet type dining. They do a very good job of putting parmasan on lasanga and moving melon balls around.

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