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middletom Posts: 467 |
posted 06-22-2010 07:07 PM
[01-2842] In the business section of the Globe today was an article about Old Newbury and its future. It was by their reporter, James Sullivan, and did a very good job of telling the story of our situation. Just thought you might all be interested and would find the article enjoyable. middletom
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-22-2010 10:14 PM
Middletom, I loved it! People that want the best will pay for it! I have gone without breakfast, lunch & dinner to afford the best that I can buy. I hope you hang in there doing the fine work that you do. Jersey IP: Logged |
vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 06-23-2010 08:08 AM
Interesting if not troubling. Be sure to read the comments, I found some of them unbelievable. IP: Logged |
middletom Posts: 467 |
posted 06-23-2010 05:58 PM
Vathek, We were looking at the "comments" today and you are quite right that some are unbelievable. The person with two college degrees was unable to read or didn't bother to. We are quite pleased with the article and have hopes that it might change our course, though Peter Dooney seems to have a short attention span, so we will probably slide back into the shadows of his mind. middletom IP: Logged |
vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 06-24-2010 07:49 PM
Unfortunately I think it's indicative of a growing number of people who see the arts of any type as superfluous and not a "real job". I also found it ironic that the same day I looked for your article there was also an article about David Siegel putting his unfinished mansion patterned after Versailles at 90,000 sq. ft. (not a typo) on the market for $75,000,000 (also not a typo). If he were to order enough silver to outfit that place Old Newbury would be set for life. IP: Logged |
middletom Posts: 467 |
posted 07-01-2010 09:29 PM
Since the appearance of that article, we've had a number of people calling, most of whom have said that they will contact Peter Dooney to urge him to do what is needed to perpetuate ONC. One man from Minnesota said he will tell Mr. Dooney that unless efforts are made to save ONC, he will not buy any more Dooney and Bourke bags for his wife. Perhaps if enough people contact him about keeping us going he will pay attention to what needs to be done. Geoff Blake IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 07-01-2010 10:49 PM
Middletom, it may sound crass but if you could get former or current "celebrity" buyers on board it certainly wouldn't hurt. With so much going on in the world, it's tough but a bit of beauty in the world will always be welcome! Jersey IP: Logged |
chicagosilver Posts: 227 |
posted 07-15-2010 02:56 PM
It is sad but not unexpected to read an article like this, and sadder still to look at the accompanying smug, philistine comments like "I don't need or want silver or gold utensils [sic] for eating..." Presumably this will work just fine for such enlightened people:
The Kalo Shop, which started in 1900, finally closed in 1970 not for want of customers, but because, according to Kalo manager Robert Bower, they "ran out of silversmiths. In the last year we lost our three top silversmiths; men who could not be replaced. It was difficult trying to find men willing to learn silversmithing and it took years to train them." Here's an interesting ONC item -- a portable "how a spoon is made" kit: IP: Logged |
middletom Posts: 467 |
posted 07-21-2010 06:59 PM
Chicagosilver, Where did you get that production display? We made very few of them and that was back in the early eighties. Yours appears to be in fine condition. One result of the article in the Globe and the attention it brought to Peter Dooney is that he has allowed a young man, who has expressed interest in learning this craft, to come into our shop and watch us. The fellow apparently bugged Peter Dooney several times until he agreed that he could come watch. Well, we have decided that if he is going to be there and yet not likely to learn much by just watching, we are going to actually teach him how to forge silver flatware. The important thing is that he wants to learn and isn't bothered by the knowledge that it will take a long time to learn. So, I guess you can say that we have an apprentice. Peter Dooney is like so many office people in not understanding how much work goes into learning a craft like this, rather assuming that because we work with our hands we are simpletons and what we do can be picked up and mastered quickly. After all, if we had any intelligence we would be shuffling papers, not pounding metal. All that is necessary is to whack the metal a few times with a hammer and a spoon or fork emerges. How hard can that be? middletom IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 07-21-2010 09:26 PM
One apprentice is a great start. I hope he will/can stick with it until the apprentice becomes the master. You know if you and our other silversmith members want to do a wanted post for additional apprentices that would be OK. Perhaps you all could define the general requirements and specify just how long the average apprentice will need to be self sufficient. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 07-22-2010 08:19 AM
Hi again Middletom! Perhaps Mr. Dooney can apply for the TV show Undercover Boss & see what goes on there. Jersey IP: Logged |
middletom Posts: 467 |
posted 07-23-2010 03:16 PM
We have hopes for our new trainee, but he is not officially hired and is here learning without compensation. Whether Peter Dooney will hire him in the future, I've no idea. It would be great if we had some input into keeping ONC going, but we are surely the bottom of the totem pole, in the eyes of those in charge. The worst part of the Globe article was Peter Dooney stating that young people don't want to learn this and apprentices are hard to find, when in his eleven years of ownership, he has not made the slightest effort to hire new people, and in fact, has discouraged those who contacted him about coming here to apprentice. Ah, but enough of me blowing off steam. I hope you are all having a good summer. Much better weather here than last year. middletom IP: Logged |
Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 07-23-2010 04:54 PM
Tom, have you checked into the various apprenticeship programs offered by your state and local governments? Many states will partially underwrite the cost of training someone or give grants to the trainee. Here in CA, the local junior colleges will pay for students to be taught crafts. There are programs like that nationwide. ONC probably can train with subsidies. Just finding them is a trick, but frequently your local junior college has someone who will help you find them. IP: Logged |
middletom Posts: 467 |
posted 07-23-2010 06:37 PM
Dale, We would be more than happy to do that, but we don't have the authority to do so. It all depends upon what the owner decides. A woman came in yesterday afer having read the article in the Globe and when I told her that some others had said they would contact Mr. Dooney to urge him to perpetuate the comoany, she said she would also. So, who knows, perhaps we are going to see a renewal of interest on the part of Peter Dooney. I would be ecstatic for he certainly knows how to sell high end merchandise and could do a great deal for us with just a modicum of publicity. middletom IP: Logged |
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