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jersey

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iconnumber posted 11-10-2010 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, it seems to have started again. Silver stolen from an antique shop in Lambertville, N.J. using smoke bombs! My guess is that it already has been melted rather than take the chance of locating the items. Either way I hope they get caught ! I wonder too if the owner has a list out as to what to look for, there is the big pier show this weekend in NYC.

So sad!

Heard nickel is up too, wonder if nickel silver will be next?

Another thought on Lamberville robbers, maybe they had a package ready to be shipped & they went straight to the PO, UPS, or FEDX!!!!!

Sounds like an inside job to me!

Jersey

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 11-10-2010 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very upsetting....a combo of silver prices and a dire economy.

And it's not just silver: Thieves recently cut and stole the copper downspouts on my parents' Federal era house. I know someone else who has been the victim of two downspout heists (replaced the first set only to have the new ones stolen several months later).

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 11-10-2010 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi seaduck!

Oh, that's too bad. Happens here too but I hadn't hear anything since copper was down in price. Where did this happen? No accounting for people, it's scary. Hope your parents are OK.

Jersey

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 11-10-2010 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can understand why some people resort to thievery. When those people are trapped in poverty or low income situations and that world is in a downward spiral then ethics/morality go out the window. So do not judge those persons caught in a world not of their own making but rather think of what society ought to do to help alleviate the causes of poverty. Of course there are always the ones who are just greedy and see it as being easier than working. look at what happened in the real estate market and wall st.

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2010 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jersey--
Parents are fine, thanks. This happened in Salem, Massachusetts. The boldness astonishes me, cuz the thieves needed ladders and had to work to saw the downspouts. And it's a fairly built-up historic neighborhood, so you'd think they'd worry about being seen, even tho' it was at night.

Shortly after my parents bought the house 40 years ago, there was a similar rash of thefts -- at that time, targeting weathervanes on carriage houses and outbuildings. Ours was stolen, too. My father replaced it with a metal toilet-tank ball from a local plumbing supply shop. Looks pretty good! (Tho, come to think of it, we should double check that it's still there...the thieves might have assumed that it's copper too.)

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2010 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Via email from a dealer:
quote:
Peter B[snip] had a burglary sometime during the summer. Bellow is a list of the Gorham Chantilly and Intentional Brandon that was taken.
Since the silver was cherry picked, even though the burglary was from his home in Mexico, the silver may wind up in the states. Please circulate the list and have anyone with information contact us or the local authorities. Thank
you in advance.

-----Original Message-----
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:58:42 -0600 (Hora est?ndar central (Mexico))
From: "Peter B[snip]"
Subject: STOLEN SILVER

I know that I am missing some items, but I am so overwhelmed, I cannot concentrate. The list below is of both Brandon and Chantilly.

Anyone you can think of to send it to, please do. If there are others that you would rather I send it to, let me know the names and email addresses.

Thanks for all your help and support.
Peter

Chantilly Service (Items missing)
3 Sm. Fish Salad Forks
2 Café Parfait Spoons
2 Ice Cream Forks
1 Sm. Indv. Old Style Pickle Fork
7 Flat Butter Spreaders
2 Iced Tea Spoons
3 Salad Forks (New Style)
16 Tea Spoons
2 Rd. Gumbo Soup Spoons
2 Bouillon Soup Spoons
3 Ramekin Forks
2 Ice Cream Forks
1 Grapefruit Spoon (Goldwash Bowl)
2 Orange Spoons
3 Oyster Forks (1895 Edition W/applied Dec.)
1 Oyster Fork (New Style)
1 Strawberry Fork
1 Lg. Berry Spoon W/applied Decorations
1 Preserve Spoon W/applied Decorations
1 Asparagus Serving Fork (Five Tine)
1 Relish Spoon Server
1 Sm. Jelly Server
1 Fish Serving Set All Sterling
1 Ice Cream Slicer All Sterling Blade H.h.
1 Gravy Spoon W/button
1 Stuffing Spoon
1 Lg. Soup Ladle
1 Oyster Ladle W/applied Decoration
1 Bouillon Ladle
1 All Sterling Punch Ladle (14” Flat Handle)
1 All Sterling Punch Ladle (H.h. with Sterling Insert)
1 Gravy Ladle
1 Tazza (1895 Chantilly Grand- Not Weighted)
1 Large Center Bowl –Chantilly Grand (Sometimes Called the Egg Nog Bowl)
16 Countess Chantilly Bread & Butter Plates
1 Countess Chantilly Tid Bit Tray
1 Countess Chantilly Sterling Compote 10”
1 Countess Chantilly Sterling Compote (Sm.)
1 Countess Chantilly Sandwich Tray
1 Chantilly Grand Sandwich Tray
1 Asparagus Serving Tray Louis Xv with Pierced Insert (Old Whiting Pattern)
14 Sterling Demitasse Cups & Saucers with Lenox Inserts
3 Sterling Napkin Rings Various Patterns
1 Chantilly Grand Water Pitcher

Additional Missing Chantilly Pieces
1895 Series with Applied Decoration
1 Blanc Mange Spoon (Extremely Rare)
1 Nut Spoon Pierced Bowl for Serving
1 Confection Spoon
1 Ice Cream Spoon (Indv.)
1 Orange Spoon (Indv.)
1 Cracker Spoon (Shell Shape)
1 Crumb Knife
1 Tea Knife
1 Cheese Fork
1 Pie Knife Server
1 Tomato Server
2 Fried Oyster Servers

“New Chantilly”missing Pieces
1 Confection Spoon
12 Egg Spoons
Large Salad Serving Set (2pc)
1 Saratoga Chips Server
1 Vegetable Spoon
1 Vegetable Fork Pierced Tines
1 Large Cheese Scoop
1 Cold Meat Fork (Large)
1 Cheese Knife with Picks on Top of Blade
1 All Sterling Pie Knife
1 Cake Saw with Serated Top
1 Waffle Knife
1 Ice Cream Knife (All Sterling Blade)
1 Pea Spoon
1 Large Master Butter Knife
1 Individual Corn Fork (Extremely Rare)
1 Master Salt Spoon (Vermail Bowl)
1 Flat Salad Server
1 Lettuce Serving Spoon
1 Cold Meat Fork (Extra Large)
1 Extra Large Serving Fork
1 Extra Large Serving Spoon

Brandon Service (items missing)
1 Flat Butter Spreader
5 HH Butter Spreaders
1 Ice Cream Fork
1 Ramekin Fork
3 Citrus Spons
4 Ice Cream Spoons
5 Chocolate Spoons
2 Long Handle Chocolate Spoons
10 Inv. Salt Spoons
5 Lg. Dinner Forks
52 Salad Forks W/bar
2 Gumbo Soup Spoons
4 Oval Soup Spoons
1 Bouillon Spoon
3 Iced Tea Spoons
24 Tea Spoons
24 5 O’clock Spoons
2 Luncheon Forks
3 Lg. Demitasse Spoons
3 Sm. Demitasse Spoons
6 Strawberry Forks
4 Parfait Spoons
4 Fruit Knives
2 Tomato Servers
1 Bon Bon
1 Pr. Ice Tongs
2 Pc. Fish Set
1 Asparagus Serving Fork
1 Lg. Stuffing Spoon
3 Lg. Berry Spoons
1 Sm. Berry Spoon
2 Salad Serving Forks W/bar
1 Lg. Cold Meat Fork
10 Lg. Table Serving Spoons
1 Pierced Sugar Sifter


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Hose_dk

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2010 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hose_dk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The text is in danish but see the picture. Case is statue 3 meter high weight 2,5 tons stolen.
The statues was made by famous artist Jericau and set up in 1860. To get acess to the statue thieves had to moove 2 stone blocks each weight 7 to 8 tons.
quote:

Tre meter høj David-statue stjålet


Af Elisabeth Lumby, lumby@berlingske.dk, Fredag den 17. oktober 2008, 11:34
Efterlysning: Mand, sidst set 13. oktober i Københavns sydvestkvarter, efterlyses af politiet på Station 1. Højde: 3-3,2 meter. Vægt: 2,5 tons. Påklæding; kappe. Særlige kendetegn: grønlig.

»Den er væk!«

Den besked fik stenhugger Flemming Brian Nielsen, da en vognmand i går morges klokken 7.00 skulle have hentet J.A. Jerichaus bronzestatue af David på værkstedet på Speditørvej i København SV.

Statuen står normalt sammen med Bissens Moses-statue foran Københavns Domkirke, Frue Kirke, men for tre måneder siden blev dens sokkel påkørt af en flugtbilist, og det velrenommerede stenhuggerfirma fik sokkel og statue til reperation og eftersyn.

David selv havde ikke lidt overlast, og soklen var blevet repareret, så statuen skulle have været stillet på plads igen i går, men den var altså væk. Da Flemming Brian Nielsen fik beskeden, løb koldsved ned ad ryggen på ham.

»Det var umuligt. Som kunstværk er den ustjælelig og uomsættelig. Det er ikke én, man kan have stående hjemme i haven, og der er ingen, der vil købe den som statue. Derfor frygter jeg, at der er nogle tåber, der har stjålet den for at skære den op og score metalværdien, der højst er 25.000 kr., mens nyprisen for at genskabe den vil være 2,5 mio.,« siger Flemming Brian Nielsen.

»Enhver ansvarlig skrothandler vil dog straks kontakte politiet, hvis han bliver tilbudt statuen stykkevis og delt, og det er også ret umuligt at få den ubemærket til udlandet, så jeg håber at få den tilbage ved at skabe offentlighed om sagen,« siger den bestjålne stenhugger.

Statuen lå på to træbjælker bag den syv-otte tons tunge sokkel på det gamle værksted, som firmaet er ved at flytte fra nu og som Flemming Brian Nielsen derfor ikke har sin daglige gang i mere. Men den blev set så set som i mandags, og der har gået en mand og arbejdet derude i dagtimerne.

»Det tager i princippet ikke mere end en time for en, allerhøjst to erfarne kranfolk at fjerne statuen,« siger Flemming Brian Nielsen, der nu i bagklogskabens ulideligt klare lys vil sætte TV-overvågning op i sit firma.


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jersey

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2010 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incredible list from Peter, incredible loss!

The bad thing is that those patterns are very popular & are sold all over. Does Peter have anything specific to look for such as, would be special markings or initials or serial numbers or some other way to ID them as belonging to him? As for the rarer pieces such as the blanc mange spoon ......it's still a problem I think.

I would love to see a picture of that.
My heart goes out to him.

Jersey

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2010 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there Scott,

It would be of great help if we knew what the monograms were on the Chantilly and the other silver pattern and pieces.

Marc

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