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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 09-17-2011 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the green box on the main forum page we are trying out a new search function.

It is a Google search that only searches Google for posts in the SSF.

Please let us know how it works and whether you think we should keep it?

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2011 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love it!

Thank you Scott!

Jersey

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 09-18-2011 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, it sure is zippy!

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chicagosilver

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iconnumber posted 09-18-2011 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chicagosilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice -- thorough and fast. With all due respect, the old search is a bit pokey.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 09-18-2011 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The old search really goes through all the postings. Where the new search only finds what the crawlers have found and then cataloged.

So some posts may never appear and new posts may take weeks to appear in the new Google search.

The new search will do some new things.

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Basic simple search is often enough. As always, we use square brackets [ ] to denote queries, so [ to be or not to be ] is an example of a query; [ to be ] or [ not to be ] are two examples of queries.

    Phrase search ("")
    By putting double quotes around a set of words, you are telling Google to consider the exact words in that exact order without any change. Google already uses the order and the fact that the words are together as a very strong signal and will stray from it only for a good reason, so quotes are usually unnecessary. By insisting on phrase search you might be missing good results accidentally. For example, a search for [ "Alexander Bell" ] (with quotes) will miss the pages that refer to Alexander G. Bell.

    Terms you want to exclude (-)
    Attaching a minus sign immediately before a word indicates that you do not want pages that contain this word to appear in your results. The minus sign should appear immediately before the word and should be preceded with a space. For example, in the query [ anti-virus software ], the minus sign is used as a hyphen and will not be interpreted as an exclusion symbol; whereas the query [ anti-virus -software ] will search for the words 'anti-virus' but exclude references to software. You can exclude as many words as you want by using the - sign in front of all of them, for example [ jaguar -cars -football -os ]. The - sign can be used to exclude more than just words. For example, place a hyphen before the 'site:' operator (without a space) to exclude a specific site from your search results.

    Fill in the blanks (*)
    The *, or wildcard, is a little-known feature that can be very powerful. If you include * within a query, it tells Google to try to treat the star as a placeholder for any unknown term(s) and then find the best matches. For example, the search [ Google * ] will give you results about many of Google's products (go to next page and next page -- we have many products). The query [ Obama voted * on the * bill ] will give you stories about different votes on different bills. Note that the * operator works only on whole words, not parts of words.

    Search exactly as is (+)
    Google employs synonyms automatically, so that it finds pages that mention, for example, childcare for the query [ child care ] (with a space), or California history for the query [ ca history ]. But sometimes Google helps out a little too much and gives you a synonym when you don't really want it. By attaching a + immediately before a word (remember, don't add a space after the +), you are telling Google to match that word precisely as you typed it. Putting double quotes around a single word will do the same thing.

    The OR operator
    Google's default behavior is to consider all the words in a search. If you want to specifically allow either one of several words, you can use the OR operator (note that you have to type 'OR' in ALL CAPS). For example, [ San Francisco Giants 2004 OR 2005 ] will give you results about either one of these years, whereas [ San Francisco Giants 2004 2005 ] (without the OR) will show pages that include both years on the same page. The symbol | can be substituted for OR. (The AND operator, by the way, is the default, so it is not needed.)


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iconnumber posted 09-26-2011 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you rely on the forum's new post lights then you may have found that it is possible to overlook a new post.

The internal SSF search function can show you all recent forums posts by

  • Any Date
  • Since Yesterday
  • Since 5 Days Ago
  • Since 10 Days Ago
  • Since 30 Days Ago

Just leave Search Words: blank and it will show all posts for the period/date range you selected in a forum or all forums.


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