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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 10-18-2010 10:29 PM
[26-2061] The last few threads bring to mind this spoon, sent along to me sometime ago. I know near nothing of souvenir spoons, so couldn't guess at its history. I looks to me to show Pope Leo X, the so-called Prince of Indulgences, flanked by a pair of dreamy floozies holding a crown above his mitre (a nice play on words) and a satirical, death-head depiction lower on the handle of the Pieta. Does this look familiar to anyone? It is unmarked and, given the long history of anti-Catholicism, could have a wide date range. IP: Logged |
Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 10-19-2010 10:28 AM
Stylistically, it is almost certainly of the 1900-1910 period. My initial reaction was that it looks American in style. Other than that, I have no information. IP: Logged |
Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 10-21-2010 08:34 AM
I see your point, but my initial reaction is is different. To my eye it comes across as more of an art nouveau style and not anti-Catholic. The floozies are fully clothed and could also simply be stylized figures typical of the time framing the pope. And my first impression of the death's head Pieta is that it is instead a bald man's head with a mustache and beard in the way that St. Peter is often portrayed. IP: Logged |
dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 10-21-2010 05:25 PM
For some reason, it looks vaguely familiar to me, but can't figure out why - personally, not really getting an anti-Papacy feel from it though. What is the size, and is it possible those are marks just above the bowl on the back? ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 10-21-2010 05:26 PM
For some reason, it looks vaguely familiar to me, but can't figure out why - personally, not really getting an anti-Papacy feel from it though. What is the size, and is it possible those are marks just above the bowl on the back? ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 10-21-2010 06:45 PM
Just another dreamy nude, flanked by cornucopias
Sort of place spoon size, as I remember (its been some time). IP: Logged |
vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 10-22-2010 07:37 AM
My Catholic iconography is a bit rusty but isn't that scene possibly the stabat mater i.e. Mary holding Jesus in her arms just after he's taken off the cross? IP: Logged |
dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 10-22-2010 12:53 PM
A bit surprised at the lack of any kind of marks, but will say that most souvenir spoons I've seen with that plump egg-shaped bowl have been of German origin (sometimes produced for other countries). Have also seen a few French souvenirs with the same shape bowl, and some Scandinavian will have similar bowls, though usually not quite as rotund. ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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