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argentum1 Posts: 602 |
posted 11-07-2011 12:55 PM
[01-2985] A coffee pot just sold on the 'west coast site' listed as '1730 American Coin Silver repousse witchs Coffee Pot'. My question is ,as I know practically nothing about witchcraft,could this have been made in the 1730's or would any silversmith have dared to make such a thing in that time period? The construction and repousse work to me is not that good so to me it could be a much later fanciful piece. Soo much to know and so little time. quote: IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-07-2011 01:16 PM
The description was, to be kind, ludicrous. IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 11-07-2011 02:23 PM
It sold for more than scrap but not much more. I suspect the buyer believes (maybe they have a spell) silver will be going up$. IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 11-07-2011 09:01 PM
Maybe the seller was under a spell??? Or trying to put potential buyers under one??? Actually a little Halloween humor might serve to distract from obvious defects: damage/repairs that should make an otherwise nice looking pot unsaleable, or else the original bottom could have had marks that would have told a different story, and so it could have been removed. "Witch" do you think? [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 11-07-2011).] IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-07-2011 09:31 PM
To which I can but reply . . . BOO! IP: Logged |
Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 11-08-2011 05:43 PM
I agree this one is just plain silly and the seller is either delusional or trying to pull a fast one. But one it does raise a real question in my mind. When were the first coffee pots made? Coffee was not really a popular drink in most parts of the world until relatively recently - between the 1600s and 1700s in many parts of Europe and the new world. When did coffee pots become a standard product of silversmiths in Europe, and when did they become a standard product of silver smiths in the Americas? IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-08-2011 05:53 PM
Two of the earliest I know of are by Charles Le Roux, c 1720-1735
The second has the basic form of chocolate pots of the period, but does not have the removable finial one would expect. IP: Logged |
agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 11-08-2011 07:16 PM
I believe the earliest known English silver coffee pot is hallmarked 1681 and is now in the Victoria and Alber Museum. I'm afraid I don't have a picture of it. IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-08-2011 07:46 PM
A Boston town record dated 1670 granted Dorothy Jones license to sell "coffee and cuchaletto (chocolate)." It is not known if she was selling bulk goods or had a coffee house like the ones which had begun popping up in London several decades earlier. The first license specifically to that purpose is dated 1691, issued to Bostonian Benjamin Harris, proprietor of the London Coffee House. IP: Logged |
Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 11-09-2011 05:01 PM
Thanks everyone. Does anyone have any dates for some of the earliest American made coffee pots, or any dates for when they became a relative common product by a number of early American smiths? The purported date on the one that started this thread is 1730 and sounds awfully early to me for an American made coffee pot. IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-09-2011 05:33 PM
There are some earlier chocolate pots, but the Le Roux pieces I posted are the oldest I have ever seen mention of. The date given in the auction is pure fantasy. IP: Logged |
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