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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 01-21-2013 01:53 PM
  
[01-3058] Posted here, as I have no idea what country might be represented. The spoon is 5" long and quite heavy. It may be plate, but polishes up nicely. The mark appears to read F over I T over M. Does anyone recognize a maker or the form of the mark? IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 01-21-2013 02:04 PM
Probably European, as the 10 Lot standard is one that was used there. [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 01-22-2013).] IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 01-22-2013 12:48 AM
I read IO And my guess goes to France and silverplated. But it is a feeling. IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 01-22-2013 01:00 AM
Almost certainly Brazilian. 10 dinheiros (.833) was the standard there throughout the 19th and into the 20th century, usually expressed simply as "10" and very frequently with the maker's initials in a (sometimes truncated) lozenge. I could find no exact match in José Gisella Valladares' As Artes Plásticas do Brasil: Ourivesaria (Rio de Janeiro: Ediouro,1952), but many other maker's marks identical in style but with variant initials are illustrated. IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 01-22-2013 01:05 AM
Forgot to add that I think it's "FJTM" and, given the mere handful of Portuguese/Brazilian surnames, it might represent something like "Francisco José Tavares de Magalhães". [This message has been edited by blakstone (edited 01-22-2013).] IP: Logged |
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 01-22-2013 08:25 AM
Yet another possibility - they are Dutch from the French occupation period ca. 1807-1813. I have a holy water bucket from that period with the maker's mark the same shape with 4 marks in it. I think the spoons can fit in this period. In "An old spoon", Blakstone writes about the "mark – “10” – was the mark used on silver of the second standard of 10 penningen or .833." and "These marks were instituted by the King of Holland (Napoleon's brother Louis Bonaparte) in a decree of 11 March 1807, and were used only for a very short time, from October 1807 until the late spring of 1812." The absence of hall marks could be explained by the fact that liturgical silver objects perhaps were tax-free. In Prussia they were. (Rosenberg: Der Goldschmiede Merkzeichen III page 285, 286) IP: Logged |
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