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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 07-14-2013 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question about monogram etiquette.

/Cast sugar tongs in the Boston Museum of Fine Arts are engraved “EC” for Eleanor Clark. She married Edmund Wingate in 1788, but the museum states that these tongs are circa 1800 some 12 years after she was married.
Was it common for women to continue to use their maiden name in monograms?

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 07-14-2013 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know the answer to that but I would think at that time a woman would never refer to herself using her maiden name.

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 07-14-2013 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cast tongs in the US are usually well before 1800. "About 1800" has some latitude. This style was popular in the 1770's and 1780's, so it is possible that they were made and owned before her marriage.

Voss shows a similar pair dated c. 1790 on Drowne's page. Drowne was working at least as early as 1775, but he did serve in the Revolutionary War, so there may have been assumed a hiatus in his production during those years. A question that could arise is how early did he use the full name mark, rather than one with initials only (he had several). Pieces are often made later to match earlier lost or damaged ones, so there are other possibilities, but no indication is given in the MFA write up on why that date was assigned.

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ringboxlady

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iconnumber posted 04-22-2015 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ringboxlady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe if she owned the sugar tongs before her marriage she would still use them after her marriage even with her maiden name monogram. I've read where silver was a gift often given among high society and it was uaually extensively engraved with monograms or sentiments. I doubt she would ignore it when setting a table for tea because I'm sure it held a great memory of a special occasioin. It would also be a great story for the afternoon! I often buy silver for the wonderful monogram alone! It always strikes curiosity at my table when a guest uses it smile Hope this helps!

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 04-23-2015 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, original monograms can make a piece better in my eyes. smile

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