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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 06-16-2009 02:02 PM
[26-1862] I searched my spoons and found a few twisted.
These are 3 different patterns. All of them Danish 3 different silversmiths - around 1800/1900. They are coffee spoons? IP: Logged |
Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 06-16-2009 02:11 PM
Search continued and I found these 6. From P.K. Jensen & wife (and then location)Stragaard. We have an example - the donator gives data on 4 of the spoons and reserves 2 for telling who gave the present. IP: Logged |
Elisabeth7291 Posts: 53 |
posted 06-16-2009 02:34 PM
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing - help enlighten me w/ my collection. There a lot of these 'twisted spoons' - obviously a very popular item. IP: Logged |
Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 06-16-2009 04:01 PM
decorations varies - yours have deep cut engraved mine have patern pressed onto the silver. but still same family. IP: Logged |
silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 06-16-2009 06:20 PM
My question about the pointed engravings is: Is this kind of engraving done by the one's who gave the silver presents. Or was it a job for a local silversmith and I think cheaper than to engrave letters and figures. At one of my spoons there is also a worse decoration pointed.(early 19th century piece). Is this point engraving also done in the 18th century and even earlier than that? Nice coffee spoons by the way! IP: Logged |
agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 06-16-2009 06:55 PM
Silverhunter Customs will vary between countries but here is an English example of a pricked engraving.
In England pricked inscriptions were common throughout the 17th century and the first half of the 18th century but less usual thereafter. They would have been done by the person who sold the spoon who may or may not also have been the maker, or by the local silversmith when a new inscription was added to an old spoon (which happened quite often when spoons were inherited or sold second hand). I imagine pricking was easier and required less training than other forms of engraving. IP: Logged |
silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 06-16-2009 07:00 PM
Agphile, Thanks you very much for the good information that you gave and the beautiful sharp photo of your very old spoon, great to see the one! IP: Logged |
silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 06-17-2009 09:37 AM
I have to make a photo of the twisted spoon I just bought today. A dutch one and I have to check the silversmith and year it was made. Photo will follow soon. It should be nice if other members also will show an example made in their own countrie so we can see differences of styles, engraving, patterns it should be nice. IP: Logged |
Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 06-17-2009 10:48 AM
This style of spoon with the twisted handle was made all over the world. Here is one of my favorite spoons in my collection that was made by the Fessenden company in the U.S. in the 1800s.
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 06-17-2009 11:54 AM
These are by Whiting and measure about five and a half inches in length. Forks and not spoons of course and a relatively common variety.
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 06-17-2009 06:00 PM
Just made a photo of the one and it is a pickle fork (my first one)a dutch type, made in 1898. Silversmith unknown to me P.C.B, with a star.
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 06-17-2009 06:43 PM
Well, Andre, you asked to see more examples of twisted stems. Here is my contribution. The pictures may not be very good. I have dug them out of my files rather than take new ones. The Romans were quite fond of twisted stems. Here are a couple of examples, probably from around the 3rd century AD.
After the Romans left Britain we had to wait until the Rococo to see twisted stems reappear, mostly on small pieces such as this pair of salt spoons and cream ladle from around 1760.
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 06-17-2009 07:00 PM
To continue from my previous post, we get occasional examples of 18th century teaspoons with twisted stems.
Some 18th century forms were revived in the 19th century. The salt spoon on the left below is unmarked but probably dates from around 1760. The one on the right was made in Birmingham in 1849.
I can’t offer much to match the later examples that you and others have shown. I haven’t collected much in the way of 19th century silver, but I am rather fond of this very provincial looking spoon and fork from the Cape of Good Hope, by , Jan Beyleveld, Cape Town, circa 1820. IP: Logged |
silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 06-17-2009 07:07 PM
It's more than expected Agphile, certain the age it has. I didn't saw any roman spoons before so your collection is wonderful and good that you work with archivated photo's. The salt spoons are also old one's so I use the words: it's good to see your museum pieces, thanks you very much for showing them. Also thanks to Kimo and Bascall, wonderfull pieces! I didn't start this topic, so I'm in the waiting room, hoping to see more reactions with twisted steles or twisted silver jewelry like Viking bracelets or so. I'm curious and hopefull. IP: Logged |
dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 06-17-2009 07:11 PM
1860s Wm. Gale & Son Ladle:
Mid 20th century "Hand Made Sterling" ladle:
1890s anonymous souvenir demitasse spoons, (1)applied shell decoration, (2)enamel roses, (3)sheet silver ribbon bow, (4)mixed metal Indian head:
Demitasse souvenir spoons, (1)1890s Howard "Arminius" head, twist is die stamped, (2)1890s Campbell-Metcalf floral, (3)1890s Finck "Jersey Skeeter" w/cattail, (4)mid 20th c. Bell Trading Post "Hoss" hat:
And a truly twisty early 20th c. engraved Norwegian sugar spoon by Alfred Gjerstrom:
~Cheryl IP: Logged |
Elisabeth7291 Posts: 53 |
posted 06-17-2009 07:42 PM
Cheryl - These are wonderful; thanks for sharing. Love this last piece in particular! E IP: Logged |
Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 06-18-2009 12:38 AM
Copenhagen around 1900
Mark M&TB for Madsen & T. Baagøes Elektroplet- og Nysølvvarefabrik established 1874. IP: Logged |
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