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allentownboy Posts: 67 |
posted 02-19-2009 11:38 PM
  
[26-1806] I collect a great deal of French silver and plate, with a focus (at the moment!!) on flatware. In fact, I have five large French flatware sets (160+ pieces in each) that I am constantly adding to when I find pieces I don't currently have. To this end, in Dec '08 I purchased from France several pieces of Ravinet D'Enfert flatware to expand upon one of my services. Several of the items were serving pieces, which always seem to be hard to locate, so I snatched them up right away. I understand the uses for all of the serving pieces I have in my collections, except this one: Note the hole in the center of the bowl which is fitted with a bezel of sorts, and the slot in the handle: In this particular service I have vegetable servers, which are larger than this piece. I would have thought perhaps it was along these lines, but the slot on the handle throws me! I ask you....whatzit for???
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 02-20-2009 05:32 AM
Hello, Rather excentrique perhaps there were two spoons like this pattern and the holes were connected together, at the end of the stele a leather belt good wearned around the taile of a beautiful excentrique woman. Second opinion is the spoon good be given at the person who ever eat the soup so quick as possible. Also a leather construcion at the end of the stele and hanged around his/her neck for the next dinner somewhere. There is a saying sentence in Holland translated: better blowned to hard instead of burning the mouth. I think a possilbility for sure that into the hole at the back of the bowl there was placed a screw,it was connected with other material/s but the spoon is a special item, that's a fact. IP: Logged |
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Kayvee Posts: 204 |
posted 02-20-2009 09:12 AM
Wow Silverhunter what an active imagination you have! My explanation is much more boring. This is a degreasing spoon that is missing its mechanism. The spoon in dipped into sauce or jus in French. Those wanting less fat in their sauce depress the mechanism, and the leaner liquid flows out of the opening in the spoon bowl. Those wanting the full fat version simply use the spoon to serve themselves without touching the mechanism. Hope this helps! IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 02-20-2009 11:46 AM
Kayvee, my compliments to you. Thanks for the right answer/solution from your side.I didn't knew those facts (of course). It's humor which lead to a lot of fantasy at my side. Have a nice weekend! IP: Logged |
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allentownboy Posts: 67 |
posted 02-20-2009 01:43 PM
Thanks for the input guys....Silverhunter, your imagination is great! Kayvee, I saw you mention that book in one of my other posts, and i am trying to track down a copy of it. I am anxious to see what a complete serving piece looks like in the book. I wonder if I can find a replacement piece for it somewhere... IP: Logged |
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Kayvee Posts: 204 |
posted 02-20-2009 03:00 PM
The Allan book has been available on that large auction site and is available on that large bookseller's site or from the publisher, Editions Faton. It was published in both French and English editions. Since your French is so good, you might prefer the French edition for all the ephemera reproduced in the book, such as manufacturer's catalogues, etc. I doubt whether replacement parts for your spoon are available. It is rather a fussy mechanism and has fallen out of use today. If you want to preserve your Ravinet-Denferet spoon you might have to find another example from any maker to cannibalize for the parts. IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 02-20-2009 03:06 PM
I doubt that you will be able to find a replacement part for this - but then anything is theoretically possible. You might do better either looking for a complete spoon, or finding a talented silversmith to hand make a replacement and install it. Of course if you went this route you would need to be prepared to pay a substantial amount for such an artist's time and work, which is likely why the person from whom you purchased this was selling it rather than having it repaired themselves. IP: Logged |
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allentownboy Posts: 67 |
posted 02-20-2009 04:05 PM
Kayvee thanks - I found it! Yikes, is it pricey...that one will have to wait a bit. The cover alone has me drooling though. I have thing for serving pieces! Both your and Kimo's suggestions are excellent ones, but chances are it would be difficult or expensive to replace or recreate. I have never seen another one of these before, and have no idea what this would have been referred to in French. Perhaps knowing that would help to narrow a search for another. (Edit: I actually found out what the French name for this serving piece is and have located several - it is known as a "Cuillere ŕ sauce gras maigre", but an unusual version not often seen.) [This message has been edited by allentownboy (edited 02-20-2009).] IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 02-21-2009 03:31 AM
Kayvee is it possible to send a copy of the photo? Just for study. I hope it will be? Thanks anyway. silverhunter/andre. It is and always be a artistique spoon, thanks for showing and I will look for more titles and also look at the library of the forum and if I find other titles I let you all know! A bientot! IP: Logged |
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allentownboy Posts: 67 |
posted 02-21-2009 10:21 AM
Silverhunter, I also have a photo I can send you, or at least direct you to one on the internet. Let me know... IP: Logged |
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June Martin Forum Master Posts: 1326 |
posted 05-30-2009 10:20 PM
Allentownboy/Kayvee: Can either of you share the photo of the intact degreasing spoon with this forum? It would be quite interesting to see? IP: Logged |
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allentownboy Posts: 67 |
posted 05-31-2009 05:34 PM
I would be happy to June, however, these are really the best pics I was able to find on the internet. These are pretty scarce! They aren't that great or clear, but I hope these are at least representative IP: Logged |
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June Martin Forum Master Posts: 1326 |
posted 05-31-2009 07:25 PM
Thank you so much, Allentownboy. A really interesting piece. IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 06-01-2009 03:55 AM
Thank you AB for showing it has a better function than mine idea it was, I will except this better solution. It's great to have such one in collection! Greetings Silverhunter (Holland). IP: Logged |
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