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vathek Posts: 966 Registered: Jun 99	posted 04-24-2017 04:41 PM Recent find, thought it rather interesting and at first thought it was coin but it may be early Wilkens & Sohne. The second mark is an oblique key in a shield. Any thoughts? [This message has been edited by vathek (edited 04-24-2017).] [This message has been edited by vathek (edited 04-26-2017).] IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-24-2017 08:14 PM I have nothing useful to say, but I like the spout. Nice teapot. IP: Logged
agphile Posts: 798 Registered: Apr 2008	posted 04-25-2017 03:09 AM According to the German wikipedia site the Wilkens mark used between c.1810 and c.1830 was the name in capitals alongside the "Bremen key" so I guess you are right about a nice early example of their work. IP: Logged
agphile Posts: 798 Registered: Apr 2008	posted 04-25-2017 12:36 PM Correction. I skimmed the wikipedia entry in too much of a rush. The mark used 1810-1830 was in cursive lettering. Capital letters plus key followed, used until the latter part of the century. Silberpunze's website on German marks illustrates what looks like a vase and lid in the same pattern with the same mark and a suggested date of 1850. If you can find your way round the German site to Wilkens and Bremen then click on the image of the mark it will take you to the relevant text and photo - or there may be a way of getting there quicker that I haven't found! [This message has been edited by agphile (edited 04-25-2017).] IP: Logged
vathek Posts: 966 Registered: Jun 99	posted 04-25-2017 02:27 PM Thanks for the info agphile. I was able to find the bit about Wilkens and that's the mark and the date of 1850 seems about right to me, and it's the same overall pattern. It somewhat reminds me of something the Mad Hatter would use. Do you by any chance know what the silver standard would have been? IP: Logged
vathek Posts: 966 Registered: Jun 99	posted 04-25-2017 02:30 PM Thanks Polly, the spout is nice and a little different. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 04-25-2017 02:47 PM quote: Silberpunze's Bremen 1850 Meister Martin Heinrich Wilkens (google translated) IP: Logged
agphile Posts: 798 Registered: Apr 2008	posted 04-25-2017 06:33 PM I am not an expert of any sort on German silver but at this date I think the standard is most likely to have been 13 lot (.812). The other common standard was 12 lot (.750)but I think items of this quality would have used the higher standard. I cannot rule out a higher standard than 13 lot, but 12 and 13 are the two most commonly used. IP: Logged
vathek Posts: 966 Registered: Jun 99	posted 04-26-2017 07:07 AM Thanks agphile. Hopefully it is 13. IP: Logged
vathek Posts: 966 Registered: Jun 99	posted 04-30-2017 11:06 AM Closer pic of spout for Polly IP: Logged

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