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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-15-2006 03:49 PM
Can you identify the stones in these setting? 1 IP: Logged |
tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 06-15-2006 05:50 PM
Scott, I have no expertise in this area, but they do look rather like Svorvski crystal I have bought in Austria. Given their apparent size, they would be awefully expensive to be precious stones. Tom IP: Logged |
FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 06-15-2006 07:16 PM
Scott, There is no way anyone can id the stones from images. You would need to take them into a reputable jewelry supply retailer or gem retailer and have them identified. Local lapidary clubs might be a good source to find someone who can id the stones. My guess is pretty blue and yellow stones... Fred IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-15-2006 10:35 PM
Well, I do know what the stones are (allegedly) and my hint to you all is that they are man made. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-15-2006 11:24 PM
Hello Scott! I'll take a shot that they are all "pseudo" diamonds.......but I must ask, are the rings marked ( mfgr., and what is the material.....gold, silver etc.) That is not to say that "real" stones have not been set in a lesser metal or vise versa. Have a great Father's Day or whatever! Enjoy Life! Jersey IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-16-2006 10:57 AM
I have not personally handled the silver in the images but they are represented as all being 925 silver. Do you mean Glass or CZ when you say "pseudo" diamonds? If yes, then the answer is no they are not glass or CZ.
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tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 06-16-2006 01:01 PM
Spinel? IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-16-2006 06:29 PM
Not Spinel. Are there anymore guesses before I reveal the 'secret' of these stones. IP: Logged |
jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 06-16-2006 06:42 PM
Topaz, Zircon, citrine? Jersey IP: Logged |
tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 06-16-2006 07:17 PM
Corundum? IP: Logged |
Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 06-17-2006 12:00 AM
My not particularly well informed guess would be saphirre and citrine. Or the blue may be a kind of topaz. These are stones that sort of maybe bridge the gap between 'natural' and 'synthetic', not to mention 'artificial' which is yet another catagory. AIR there are ways to 'grow' citrines and topaz within a quartz type matrix. All of which is probably all wet. My guesses anyway. Citrine definte guess. The blue lean towards a kind of topaz. IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-17-2006 07:19 AM
All reasonable guesses. I don’t think a gem retailer could be 100% accurate. The gem retailer would be able to identify the type of stone but I would be surprised if they could identify the source used to “man make” the stone. My next hint: they are not "pseudo" diamonds. IP: Logged |
tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 06-17-2006 09:40 AM
Moissanite? IP: Logged |
FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 06-17-2006 10:48 AM
OK, Scott, they must be synthetic diamonds then. If so then I'm out of date; I didn't think they were making them that big at reasonable prices yet. Without the hint my guess would've been synthetic sapphires, as both of those colors appear to be within the range for those stones. It's very difficult to capture 'fire' in photographs, the colors resulting from the dispersion of light in diamonds. Do these have good fire in person? For the curious, look up sphalerite sometime. It has an even higher dispersion than diamonds (more fire). And it's found in a veritable rainbow of color -- I remember some years ago Needless Markup (er, that is, Neiman Marcus) had made up bracelets forming a nearly full spectrum around, in sphalerite (it doesn't really do blues and purples). But it's softer and more fragile than diamond, so not really very practical for most jewelry mounts. [This message has been edited by FWG (edited 06-17-2006).] IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-17-2006 11:55 AM
Like me, at one time or another you have heard someone refer to another as a "diamond in the rough". Until recently that was just an expression. These stones are man made diamonds and the carbon used to make the diamonds is harvested from cremation remains. No I'm not kidding. They are making and marketing these as the modern version of the mourning ring/jewelry. quote: Now they have added the ability to make the diamond from human hair ..So you may give of yourself while you are still around. Could this become the new engagement ring? Could celebrity stalkers start hanging around hair salons? This company has apparently managed to get hair from Beethoven: quote: IP: Logged |
FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 06-17-2006 02:21 PM
Sounds to me like the carbon from a hair sample must be only part -- probably only a trace part -- of the carbon they use to make the diamond. Otherwise it would have to be one heck of a big lock of hair! IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-17-2006 03:35 PM
They say: quote: IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-17-2006 03:43 PM
I wonder if anyone is developing a plan to extract precious metals from remains? Could there ever be enough to make the setting for the diamond? IP: Logged |
Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 06-19-2006 04:03 PM
quote: That's what the gold fillings are for. IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-19-2006 05:42 PM
Here are some example of Victorian mourning jewelry. All except the last ring have "hair work" included. The ring at the bottom says "in memory of" inscriptions inside: David Moses Ob 29 April 1860 Ae 73; Abigail Moses Ob 13 May 1862 Ae 72; Samuel Moses Ob 28 Dec 1883 Ae 73 IP: Logged |
salmoned Posts: 336 |
posted 06-19-2006 06:59 PM
The entire concept is ridiculously amusing. Cremated remains have only trace amounts of carbon, since removing carbon is part of the process - the remains are ashes, not charcoal (Now there's an idea - barbeque a steak over aunt Edna's coals!). May as well take carbon from one's toe nails as one's hair, what exactly is the point? IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 06-19-2006 07:05 PM
This gives new meaning to an old saying previously applicable only to baldness: "Hair today and gone tomorrow."
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