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artlibrarian

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iconnumber posted 09-24-2006 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artlibrarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am researching this Scarab and can't find marks like these anywhere in Tardy, Wyler, Divis or online. Photo of marks is terrible but I include it because I know it will be requested. The first mark is definitely a star, the second looks like a peach or an apple. Egyptian? Middle Eastern? Any help would be appreciated. This is an informational request for an estate sale purchase with no provenance. Thanks for any help...

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 09-26-2006 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may be able to help a bit, but could you please clarify what you mean when you say you are asking as 'an informational request for an estate sale purchase'? Are you researching this to sell or to buy?

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iconnumber posted 09-26-2006 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are the legs articulated? I, too, have a clue.

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artlibrarian

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iconnumber posted 09-26-2006 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artlibrarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi...this was purchased from an estate sale. I'm looking for information about it.

Also, it has no moving parts.

Thanks...

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2006 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason I asked is this forum is not a place for research on things you are planning to sell.

It is hard to tell from the fuzzy photo, but these are not Egyptian hallmarks. The Egyptian silver standard mark was a cat from about 1906 to 1946 and then a lotus from then on. There would be secondary Egyptian markings as well that are not on your scarab.

The star marking on your scarab appears to be the one that is used in Spain from 1934 to the present and indicates a .915 silver quality standard (a bit less than sterling which is .925). The second marking would be that of the maker but I am not an expert on makers in Spain and their marks so I can't tell you who it is. Likely your scarab was made during one of the constantly recurring cycles of international popular interest in ancient Egypt any time from 1934 to the recent past.

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artlibrarian

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2006 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artlibrarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the info Kimo. The second hallmark is not in a hexagon, does that make a difference?

For the record, I enjoy researching antiques, decorative and fine arts. I have collected some silver mesh bags and other smalls in the past but my interest is academic, not commerce related. I don't sell anything. I appreciate this website and the people who contribute information on it.

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iconnumber posted 09-28-2006 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I can tell the hexagon cartouche for the maker's mark on Spanish silver is somewhat common but not necessarily a rule.

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iconnumber posted 09-28-2006 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artlibrarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is great to know, thank you so much for your help.

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