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Gaspare Posts: 97 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 05-17-2018 05:07 PM Greetings.. I'm asking world wide here... Time period 1920s to 1950s... Was there silver jewelry that was made by the die cast method? Even current,,is this a viable method? my understanding is that it was never done that way. Either a investment cast or a die and a press are the methods I know of back then.. IP: Logged
Gaspare Posts: 97 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 05-20-2018 12:59 AM anyone out there familiar with silver jewelry production in the time period of - 1920s to the 50s? Here in the states or Europe.. My thinking was there was lost wax/investment cast,,,and a Die and using a press method - die struck. Would Die Casting ever used?. Molten silver introduced in to a metal 2 piece die/mold by means of Pressure.? I've never heard of it being done back then,,or even currently. Would be really difficult especially with something like a ring.. Any member that could help with an answer?, thanks...,Gaspare [This message has been edited by Gaspare (edited 05-20-2018).] IP: Logged
Gaspare Posts: 97 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 05-22-2018 03:25 PM OK, guess its not really the question for this site.. Can anyone refer me to a site or a link somewhere that might be able to answer the question....... Thanks much...,Gaspare IP: Logged
cbc58 Posts: 333 Registered: Aug 2008	posted 05-22-2018 06:02 PM I would be very surprised if the die cast method wasn't used for some aspects of jewelry making. Of course the size of the pieces are an issue with die casting (they have to be large enough), and metal stampings were probably more prevalent - an even cheaper method of manufacturing. I think the majority of jewelry "findings" and components are made that way. [This message has been edited by cbc58 (edited 05-22-2018).] IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 05-23-2018 03:50 PM Perhaps this is of interest: The Long History of Lost Wax Casting IP: Logged
Gaspare Posts: 97 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 05-24-2018 04:00 PM thanks so much for your responses! 1920s-1950.. I'd say true die casting wouldn't be used, [especially for rings]. I don't think it was used back then and its not used now.. Lost Wax cast: Yes its been around forever. It's still the main way today but highly refined. Back in the period I've mentioned most big manufacturers had die cutters on staff. Many items like rings were made with a press and piece of drawn silver. Unskilled labor could be used. At the press, dies chocked in, silver in place and press a button,,or crank a handle.. Would anyone here be able to point me in the direction of where I could see photos of that operation? IP: Logged
Gaspare Posts: 97 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 06-24-2018 08:05 PM well, don't mean to harp on this but.. seems there is so little photographic evidence. True Die casting,,yes forget it. Wasn't big back then nor now. Currently it seems everything is lostwax/investment cast. And, why not,,big 'trees' of rings etc.! But in conversations I've had with some old timers they tell me in Europe that: - Big firms employed die cutters. This was very common. They would cut master dies and then working dies were made from them.. The jeweler could then either make the item, lets say a ring. OR actually sell a 'working die' to a smaller firm and they'd make the ring themselves. `Sometime after the war this method stopped for various reasons and lost wax came in and stayed in.. *What I'm looking for is maybe a photograph,,a press worker at their station. A die shown chocked in a press, etc.. OR any type of period documentation describing the process or maybe telling about a new press or about hardening etc. IF any member has a photograph or information they'd like to share I'd really appreciate it,,thank you..,Gaspare IP: Logged
Gaspare Posts: 97 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 06-27-2018 09:03 PM Well, not having so much luck. Maybe I'm in wrong area?.. How about this : Does anyone know a BOOK about commercial manufacture [mass produced] of rings for retail sales? I guess late 1920s up to 1950s involving dies and presses? Thanks greatly..,Gaspare Any year printed, any language IP: Logged

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