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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 05-11-1999 11:05 AM
  
See original full posting in the Silver Ephemera & Documentation Forum helpful resources for collectors When Gorham introduced the Lansdowne pattern in 1917, they also published a catalog. The catalogue included an index of flatware and holloware items made in the pattern. This index is currently available to Book of Silver registered users in the Book of Silver Forum. To learn more about the Book of Silver, click here www.smpub.com/bos/bos.html IP: Logged |
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americanpotluck Posts: 23 |
posted 05-13-1999 06:00 PM
Does anyone have any thoughts as to why this pattern is somewhat difficult to find, particularly serving pieces and more esoteric pieces like fish knives. I know Lansdowne is no longer being made, but given its introduction in 1917 I would expect it to be easier to find than is the case. IP: Logged |
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edensterling Posts: 40 |
posted 05-14-1999 03:18 PM
What you need to try and figure out it is, how long was it in production. The country was about to go to war (As I remember) and soon to enter into the Great Depression. It's possible that this pattern wasn't produced for very long. I wonder if the Lansdowne catalogue is dated? If so, that could help us in defining a more specific time period. [This message has been edited by edensterling (edited 05-14-99).] IP: Logged |
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americanpotluck Posts: 23 |
posted 07-31-2003 12:38 PM
Since raising my initial question about the existence of a Lansdowne catalog, I've had the good fortune to acquire an orginial Lansdowne catalog (it's undated however), along with numerous dated price lists and pamphlets from the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. The catalog pictures both flatware and holloware but the holloware shown in the catalog differs in style from many of the pieces that I've seen over the years. In fact, I've run across at least five other styles of the Lansdowne holloware, some of which were dated as early as 1913. Why were so many variations of Lansdowne holloware made by Gorham, and why would some pieces pre-date the pattern's "introduction" in 1917? [This message has been edited by americanpotluck (edited 07-31-2003).] IP: Logged |
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June Martin Forum Master Posts: 1326 |
posted 08-02-2003 06:44 PM
How do you know the other pieces different than those in the catalog were actually Lansdowne? Maybe the lack of documentation led to speculation and loose attribution to the Lansdowne pattern over the years. Dealers have been known to tell you what you want to hear if you are willing to hear it. On the other hand, Gorham as well as other silver manufacturers were also known to do variations on patterns probably to pump up sales by giving the public something else to add to their silver set. Although if you are not seeing the variations in the catalog, the loose attribution possibility may be closer to the truth. Can you post some photos comparing the catalog pattern with actual pieces that are variations? It sure would be cool to see. Thanks for sharing and take good care of that catalog! [This message has been edited by June Martin (edited 08-02-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 08-02-2003 07:33 PM
Perhaps the design just wasn't very popular. Whiting had a pattern called Pompeian with a similar urn design. It is not seen very frequently either. I think it came out around 1913. Actually, there are numerous examples of Lansdowne on eBay now, but only one piece of Pompeian. Maybe urns on flatware wasn't the "in" thing that decade. IP: Logged |
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americanpotluck Posts: 23 |
posted 08-03-2003 11:15 AM
I'm not sure the "attribution" theory is the answer, since all of the variations I've seen are clearly marked with Gorham's lion, anchor, G hallmark, and all bear the distinctive Lansdowne urn medallion. The main differences in the variations I've seen lie in four areas: the shape of the pieces (round vs angular); the foot (ribbed vs greek key vs ribbed with a floral medallion); the border design (greek key vs ribbed vs urn-with-garland; and the numbering scheme (A105** vs A106** vs A107** vs A108**). The catalog pieces are numbered A106**, have a greek key border design, and also have a greek key design on the foot (the open salt and the salt/pepper shaker being an exception with just a plain/smooth foot). The pieces I own are numbered A105**, have an urn-with-garland border, have a ribbed foot, and are date marked 1918 (although I've also seen a bread tray that matched my pieces but bore a 1917 date mark). I'll attempt to take and post images of some actual pieces as well as corresponding pieces from the Gorham catalog. [This message has been edited by americanpotluck (edited 08-12-2003).] IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 08-03-2003 09:32 PM
An interesting coincidence. I just attended a monthly antique show where I was asked to help identify a Gorham Pattern and of course it was Lansdowne. She has three of more teaspoons. If there is interest I can acquire them if they are still available. Fred IP: Logged |
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