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dixie Posts: 6 |
posted 11-05-2002 04:57 PM
  
Greetings everyone. In going through some of my Mom's old silver we found a 4 piece Tiffany tea set. It appears to be the Victorian floral motif from the mid 1800's. Was wondering if anyone could help me figure out this out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 11-05-2002 08:13 PM
With photos of the makers marks we can help you to better identify what you have. IP: Logged |
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dixie Posts: 6 |
posted 11-07-2002 12:59 PM
Thanks Scott. My mom and grandparents where antique collectors and I believe this was passed down through my mom from my Grandparents who owned an antebellum home in Natchez Mississippi. Unsure who the name is that is inscribed on the items. IP: Logged |
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dixie Posts: 6 |
posted 11-07-2002 01:08 PM
We "think" this is around 1850'ish and that it was supposed to be a 5 piece set? The markings on the bottom are: 3 Tiffany & Co. G & W 592 We have what we think are the Pitcher, Sugar, Creamer, and Waste container....all are matching. Also of interest is that these items are all inscribed on one side with "John S. Coulsom" From JMD and JMJ IP: Logged |
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William Hood Posts: 271 |
posted 11-10-2002 02:03 PM
I interpret the marks on your set as follows: Am not sure what the "3" represents. "G. & W." indicates the set was made for Tiffany & Co. by the New York firm of Grosjean & Woodward, a major supplier to Tiffany prior to the time it began to manufacture its own silverware in 1868-1869. "592" is likely an order number, and, if so, is a relatively early one, probably corresponding to a date of ca. 1855. IP: Logged |
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dixie Posts: 6 |
posted 11-10-2002 03:20 PM
Thanks for the information. Do you know if this is supposed to be a 5 piece set? If so, do you know what is missing from the set? Also, when you say order number, does that mean this is a custom set? Is there anyway to cross reference the order numbers? Thanks again. IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 11-10-2002 04:25 PM
What are the sizes and dimensions of the pieces? It looks like you have a teapot, a sugar bowl and a waste bowl and a mystery item. The other piece looks to be either a syrup or a chocolate or a rather odd shaped creamer, would depend on size. I have run into Victorian sets that had a syrup rather than a creamer, don't know the reason for choosing that configuration. Lovely set and in very good condition. IP: Logged |
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dixie Posts: 6 |
posted 11-10-2002 07:41 PM
OK. The mystery item is approx 6.5" tall IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-14-2002 01:12 AM
I was paging through some old Christie's catalogs today and came across this hot water kettle on stand from the Charles Carpenter sale in 1994. It is marked for Tiffany/Young & Ellis and is dated 1850. It measures 12 3/8" and weighs in at 51 oz. IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 11-15-2002 12:41 PM
The mystery item is simply a covered milk jug--sometimes intended for hot milk, hence covered. I can't imagine a syrup jug with a tea set, tho' syrup jugs do exist in this period. The Newark Museum owns a similar set, not so elegantly engraved, from 1854, made for a Newark family, with a covered milk jug. The pictures are a little confusing, because in one the jug looks almost as big as the teapot. What you are missing--if there ever was one--was a kettle on stand. I am sure that some people opted out of that expensive form, and settled for the four-piece set. Too bad the lid is missing on the sugar bowl. IP: Logged |
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William Hood Posts: 271 |
posted 11-22-2002 11:15 AM
Dixie: Due to computer problems, was unable to respond to your request of Nov. 10 until now. The order number possibly indicates that this was a "custom" set, although T & Co. may have ordered it from G. & W. to sell speculatively rather than to a specific customer. Am not sure what you mean by a way to "cross-reference" the order numbers. The T. & Co. archives in Parsippany, NJ has some old records of sales by order number, but they are incomplete, and I have no way of knowing whether your set might be included. For a hefty fee, the archives staff will pursue this question for you. [This message has been edited by William Hood (edited 11-22-2002).] IP: Logged |
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