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taloncrest Posts: 169 |
posted 03-11-2006 02:04 PM
[26-0951] I found a very interesting pastry server in a local antique mall yesterday, and purchased it because the construction was new to me, and I do not have much arts and crafts silver in my collection. Looking in Rainwater, Marshall Field was the only possible match, and thanks to an older thread on these forums I have identified it as Marshall Field Colonial pattern. I've gone to the local library this morning, and put in an inter library loan request for Darling's Chicago Metalsmiths in a effort to find out more. I thought that even the old hands here might find pictures of it interesting, so I'll try my luck at posting photos again. It is maybe an eighth of an inch shy of 11 inches long, but it is not monogrammed. I thought it was very interesting that it was marked on the side, rather than the front or back. I'm sorry that my picture of the server in it's entirety is so dark. IP: Logged |
FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 03-11-2006 04:49 PM
Nice find! I spent six years in Chicago doing my graduate work -- and looking at all the silver I could -- and I don't remember seeing more than a very few Marshall Fields marked pieces. This piece certainly looks typical of the Chicago Arts & Crafts pieces I've seen; not that there have been that many of them. As written in one of the other threads, the movement made a strange combination of modernist and traditional motifs. For those who don't know the name, Marshall Fields is one of the grand department stores of Chicago, and I believe the most up-scale, being a little more so than Carson Pirie Scott (its nearest competitor). It's now part of a large conglomerate, of course, but unlike so many of the old regional department stores the name has been kept. Another department store that apparently made some of its own silver, as well as selling lots from others, was Birks in Montreal [NB: see corrections below]. I've seen many Birks pieces, throughout Canada and the US. Birks also sometimes added their mark to pieces of silver they resold, typically English sterling -- but I think I saw one once with Birks and French marks. I never saw Marshall Fields marked pieces with other makers marks, even though they also sold at some times both antiques and new pieces from other silversmiths. [This message has been edited by FWG (edited 03-12-2006).] IP: Logged |
FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 03-11-2006 05:02 PM
PS: if you use a neutral density background you'll have an easier time getting an even exposure. Translated, that means something with about the tonal value of grey cardboard -- it can be any color (although medium-light blue is traditional for silver, and shows it off well), but about that level of darkness. IP: Logged |
rian Posts: 169 |
posted 03-11-2006 07:21 PM
Would the Marshall Field's Colonial pieces have been cut out and then hand hammered to give them their texture, or would they have been rolled out that way by machine? Is it easy to tell the difference when you have the silver in your hand? Can you tell if it was made all in one piece, or does it look as though the handle was applied? Thank you for posting the pictures. I don't think I've ever seen one like it. IP: Logged |
Kayvee Posts: 204 |
posted 03-11-2006 11:48 PM
A note of clarification about Birks, which is not a department store like Marshall Fields, but Canada's most prestigious maker and retailer of silver and jewelry, sometimes called "Tiffany of the north." The Birks website gives a comprehensive history of the firm, and using the Forum search function will yield many posts about the company and its products. For those interested in 20th Century silver, a well-known Birks' designer and silversmith was Carl Poul Petersen, a son-in-law of Georg Jensen who worked for Birks for many years before establishing his own firm in Montreal. IP: Logged |
taloncrest Posts: 169 |
posted 03-11-2006 11:50 PM
I think that it is hand hammered, but I'm still learning. I am including an attempt to get a good shot of the joint of the blade and handle. It looks like it was made in two pieces and joined together. IP: Logged |
outwest Posts: 390 |
posted 03-12-2006 02:04 AM
Nice pictures and that's a very interesting piece. It certainly looks hand made and hand hammered. I did not realize that department stores made their own silver ever! In style it reminds me very much of a tea/coffee set I have. It's International Sterling from the 1920's that is hammered. I've always wondered if it was roll hammered or hand hammered. How can someone tell? I rather assumed everything from the major players was machine made by the 1920's. But, the diamond monogram areas are not hammered. I can never decide if I think it is art deco, arts and crafts or a mix with some classical thrown in. Is hammering considered arts and crafts then? [say....is that M and F connected? That looks rather like the MF on the napkin rings in another thread] [This message has been edited by outwest (edited 03-12-2006).] IP: Logged |
FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 03-12-2006 08:09 AM
My apologies, Kayvee, and to the fine folks at Birks. Mea culpa. I was always told by friends in Montreal that it was a department store, although I never visited. When I was around there, in the early '90s, they were closing down stores and reported to be out of business -- but apparently the company was bought out and seems to now be going strong. In the past they also had retail outlets in the US, which helps account for the amount of their work seen here. IP: Logged |
rian Posts: 169 |
posted 03-12-2006 08:29 AM
Thanks for the extra pictures. It sure does look like it was made in two pieces! I suppose that with enough skill and effort the irregularities of hand hammering could be reproduced by machine, but that applied handle argues convincingly for a handwrought piece. I'd be interested in knowing who did the work for Marshall Field. Let us know what you find out with the Darling book. Chicago was a big rail hub though, and Marshall Field wouldn't have had to contract locally. IP: Logged |
hello Posts: 200 |
posted 03-12-2006 08:41 AM
Birks was going the path of the "regular" jewellery store in the early 90's, with many outlets everywhere. They came under new management (shame in a way bc it was still in the family when it was sold to the current owners) and they returned it to it's "prestige" of earlier days. IP: Logged |
Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 03-12-2006 12:37 PM
At some point, the common story goes, Marshall Field had an in house silver smith shop. This shop took orders, designed custom pieces and generally sold hand made silver to the public. People I knew who remembered this always said that it was a small operation. And not capable of the volumn of production sold. The supposition was that work was farmed out to other shops, like Kalo. And to the numerous silversmiths who worked in Chicago. Which explains the variations found on MF silver. The shop did make silver right in front of your eyes. But also had a backup system for larger scale production.\ This is what I was told some 30 years ago by several people who had actually bought silver there and seen the operation. IP: Logged |
FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 03-12-2006 02:02 PM
Marshall Field had a large silver production shop that took up an entire floor of it's store. I have seen and documented an entire set for 12 of sterling flatware marked Colonial. The set had a rounded end and no chased line. They most often made their spoons in two parts and soldered the handle to the bowl. Your server shows solder seams as well. They also produced hollare to match and made jewelry as well. Darcy Evon of the Chicago Sun Times wrote a comprehensive article about the shop over a year ago and was published in the newspaper. Sharon Darling also shows an image of the shop and production which also included cast bronze desksets and accessories. Fred [This message has been edited by FredZ (edited 03-12-2006).] IP: Logged |
rian Posts: 169 |
posted 03-12-2006 04:50 PM
Thank you Dale and FredZ. I'm still trying to get my mind wrapped around the idea of a smithy inside of a department store. In this century...oops, no, it was in the last century after all. My husband says that he can get the article for me if I can't find it myself. IP: Logged |
taloncrest Posts: 169 |
posted 03-12-2006 05:30 PM
I'm looking forward to reading the Darling book. I found a Chicago Sun-Times article by Darcy Evon using Google. I don't know if it is the same one FredZ mentioned. The title is "Chicago institution promoted field" and if you search for that, it comes up first. Outwest, yes, the M and the F are joined together. [This message has been edited by taloncrest (edited 03-12-2006).] IP: Logged |
Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 03-12-2006 11:16 PM
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 03-12-2006 11:46 PM
Here is my horribly amateurish way of linking to articles about Marshall Field & Company. The building is a major historical one, in use since 1892. In addition to the silversmith shop, it also contained a cooking school. And lots of other cool stuff.
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