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Sgt Silver Posts: 41 |
posted 04-23-2016 05:55 PM
According to the Wine Label Circle, an international organization based in England, bottle-tickets began being seen in 1735. They have been made from silver, gold, pewter, plated metals, enamels, china, pottery, glass, mother of pearl, ivory, bone, teeth and other materials. The Circle has documented labels with hundreds of names of wines, spirits, liqueurs and cordials, as well as sauces. Labels have been made in many countries. Few American labels were made before the mid-19th century, and English labels were occasionally shipped here. George Washington is known to have bought silver English labels. In the US they are often referred to as decanter labels, liquor labels or bottle tags. I haven’t yet seen one from the US that was made with the name of a wine. What I have found are labels with appealing designs made in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Here are three by George Shiebler; each by a different artist, apparently. A small one: RYE Retailed by and marked Theodore B Starr: CLARET A classic Shiebler art nouveau design: WHISKEY ------------------ [This message has been edited by Sgt Silver (edited 04-23-2016).] IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 04-24-2016 02:11 PM
Good post. I wonder what other bottle tags/tickets/labels members might share with us? Here is a better look at the Theodore B. Starr mark.
And here is a 1883 patent paper for a bottle tag.
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 04-26-2016 04:21 PM
You got me looking at bottle tickets...... I haven't bumped into any Shiebler examples to add. Here's one by Paul Storr:
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Sgt Silver Posts: 41 |
posted 05-02-2016 08:10 PM
Here are two from Tiffany that don't seem to have similarity:
Not much of Art Nouveau in this design:
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 05-02-2016 10:17 PM
Thanks for this post. The Shiebler tag for wheat whiskey is particularly intersecting. IP: Logged |
Sgt Silver Posts: 41 |
posted 05-05-2016 05:06 PM
Yes, AHWT, that's the first one I bought. The design was captivating. IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 05-08-2016 10:39 AM
Sgt. Silver, You mention the London based Wine Label Circle. I assume you maybe a member. Are other SSF members also Wine Label Circle members? I know nothing about Wine Label Circle... The Wine Label Circle being UK based, I have always assumed their focus was on UK wine labels. Do they know/do much with American labels? IP: Logged |
vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 05-10-2016 12:07 PM
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Sgt Silver Posts: 41 |
posted 05-12-2016 09:29 PM
Scott, The Wine Label Circle is indeed in England. Membership is about 150, two-thirds of whom are in the UK. There are 21 members in the US, 11 in Australia and a few in Canada, France, South Africa, Germany and Japan. One WLC focus is the makers, with Sandylands Drinkwater and the Batemans being among the most highly regarded; high design is also appreciated. They have also recorded several hundred wines & spirits names on their List, including variations. English silversmiths had been quite prolific before Americans got into the business, and attention to American labels has been modest. Yes, I joined a few years ago, but haven't had much contact with them yet. Perhaps after I make another post or two on this thread, I will direct their attention to it. Or I might send photos and a write-up to them for publication in their beautiful semi-annual Journal. Am I the only one on the Silver Salon Forums who has seen appeal in wine labels, do you suppose? IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 05-16-2016 09:51 PM
Sorry Sgt Silver, I missed your post until today. Thanks to you I have a growing awareness/interest in bottle tags. Most members hold their associations fairly close....so I don't really know. Perhaps you could share this thread and any other posts with them, then maybe other WLC members will join the SSF discussions. IP: Logged |
Sgt Silver Posts: 41 |
posted 05-30-2016 03:44 PM
Here are two from Whiting - similar, yet different. I hope those who know more about silversmithing will be able to explain how they were made.
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 05-30-2016 06:56 PM
Stamped, then acid etched? IP: Logged |
agleopar Posts: 850 |
posted 06-01-2016 09:35 PM
A+ Ms. Polly, go to the head of the class! IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-02-2016 02:10 PM
I'm surprised that no one else has tags to share?? IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-03-2016 07:41 PM
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 06-07-2016 12:22 AM
Nothing so lovely as the others shown here, but for three years in the '80s, a friend gave me liquor for Christmas, with appropriate new English silver labels - of course I had to get decanters for them, also picking up a bit earlier fourth. Please forgive the awful quick & dirty cell phone pics... Richards & Knight, London, 1985 Ari Norman, London, 1986 Richards & Knight, London, 1987 C.J. Vander, Ltd., London, 1967 Received this nice mid to late 19th century electroplate label, by John Gilbert of Birmingham, as part of a mixed lot in a Christmas gift exchange last year:
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-07-2016 09:04 AM
Thank you Cheryl. Wonderful gifts. IP: Logged |
Sgt Silver Posts: 41 |
posted 06-12-2016 04:30 PM
Thanks, Cheryl. The scallop shell with Vodka has particular charm. IP: Logged |
dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 06-12-2016 05:13 PM
Was a seashell collector back then, thought he did well in finding that one - it is definitely my favorite... ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-25-2016 06:21 PM
Forum member Patrick Street, in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, wrote an article in 2010 for the SSA on Wine Labels. He has very graciously permitted me to post the following.
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-25-2016 06:30 PM
See Patrick's article on Fortunato "Lucky" Rocca. IP: Logged |
Sgt Silver Posts: 41 |
posted 07-07-2016 08:21 PM
Wonderful group of labels - a volume in itself. IP: Logged |
vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 07-15-2016 02:09 PM
Birmingham, 1851, George Unite. I'm curious to know how people pronounce his last name. IP: Logged |
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