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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 11-25-2001 03:05 PM
  
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Melissa unregistered |
posted 11-30-2001 10:25 PM
Currier attributes this mark to Theophilus Bradbury. I have quite a bit by him, marked with his pseudos, can you get me a close up of the engraving? His hand is fairly distinctive, perhaps that would be a help in making the identification. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
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melissa unregistered |
posted 12-01-2001 02:05 PM
None of my spoons have engraving of that style, all are plain script, no feathering. They run from small coffins to plain fiddle in style. Perhaps someone else has something tucked away in their collection? What else is out there? Based on what I have, I would say they are not done by the same hand. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-01-2001 03:36 PM
I have to say I have always been a little dubious of the attribution. Neither Belden or Buhler give it as an alternate. The Newbury Historical Society's Simple Elegance shows it, citing both Currier and Flynt & Fales (who also cites Currier). The example shown is on a shoulderless fiddleback tablespoon with a pointed arch drop that they date c. 1815. The engraving is a bit hard to make out, but does look very close in form to that on Scott's. I checked the 9 pieces I have (all with the eagle/B/Indian mark) and though the monogram style is similar on all, it looks nothing like that shown here. Two of those I have, a tea- and tablespoon, are long narrow coffins of much early form, c 1800. There is good evidence that the eagle/B/Indian mark was cut for Bradbury by Jacob Perkins, who had used the same images when engraving Massachusetts copper cent in 1788. Perhaps Bradbury had some reason to try something new, but the plethora of pieces, of both earlier and later in date, with his accepted mark and the relative rarity of this one makes it a bit hard to credit. Which leads to the question of who else it might be, to which I must answer I haven't a clue. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 12-01-2001).] IP: Logged |
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REB Posts: 12 |
posted 12-01-2001 06:34 PM
I know I'm just a neophyte and this is just a hunch, but the wavy border of the cartouche is reminiscent of the upper border of the cartouche in the mark given to Timothy Bonticou (1693-1784) on pg 67 of Belden. Perhaps this is the mark of his great grandson, Timothy Bonticou (1791-1815), designed in honor of his great grandfather. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-01-2001 07:21 PM
An intriguing idea, REB; I believe you have hit it on the head. The appendix of Cutten's Georgia shows the same mark on a piece from the High Museum exhibition with a Georgia provenance and attribution to Timothy. He was actually the grandson of Timothy Bontecue of New Haven and a nephew of Roswell Bontecue. When he traveled south is not known, but he was listed after 1810 as a silversmith with Marquand, Paulding and Penfield in Savannah, though it appears from the inventory of his estate that he was renting work space from, rather than working for the firm. He died 2 October 1815. If the attribution is indeed true, Scott has found himself a tasty - and rare - bit of Southern silver. And congrats on leaving the Neophyte ranks. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 12-02-2001 10:42 AM
I don't think there are any Neophytes in this thread. Everyone here loves silver. Each of us comes to the Silver Salon Forums with different resources, experiences and perspectives. June and I think it is wonderful when Silver Salon Forum members/visitors combine their collective body of knowledge to reveal new insights. Thanks to all for the interesting attribution. I have printed out this thread and have stored it with the spoons. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-16-2012 10:16 PM
Goteborg posted 06-16-2012 07:51 PM Timothy Bontecou quote: IP: Logged |
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