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t-man-nc Posts: 327 |
posted 03-09-2002 06:28 PM
Went to the Flea Market and spent way too much money, but have added 19 new spoons to the collection. (Lisa is going to kill me...) but is there any other way for a “Silverphile” to go? WEV, On to the interesting pieces... 1, 2 , and 3 all by "R & W. Wilson", all three are nicely marked and of the Table spoon Length and Size, all from different dealers. Two are almost identical with the same Monograms/Engravings (what’s the odds of that happening). They do have a slight variation in the length from the bowl and wings to the base of the fiddle (tipped on the back of the fiddle) The third is basically the same except it is about 3/8inch shorter and the "Tipped" is on the front. 4,5,6 and 7 are by "Blynn & Baldwin", 3 perfect and 1 irregular, nothing of great curiosity here... #8 is interesting in that it is by "J.J.LOW&CO" (John J Low 1828), but I have no reference to the specific Mark...? --- Post split: see following post --- IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 03-10-2002 03:09 PM
-- Post continued -- # 9 is by "J.E. Caldwell&Co" ornately engraved (Bright Cut)tipped reverse, have seen plain but the engraving was nice... #10 and 11 are by (Stumper #1) "? BURDICK" can't read the first initial... can't find Burdick either... any thoughts...? #12 Stumper #2... a stuffing spoon (Large about 9 1/2 inched) a "13" Hummm? --- Post split: see following post --- IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 03-10-2002 03:10 PM
-- post continued -- #13 a table spoon, tipped with wings marked "R.K. Twambley." (notice the last period...?) good clear mark, I have no reference for him, anybody got a guess..? #14 another tablespoon, Tipped fiddle w/ wings marked "W.D. FENNO&SONs" a second mark "WORCESTER", I assume this to be the Fenno of Fenno and Hale from Bangor Maine, so the puzzle is the reference to Worcester...? #15 is a heavy tablespoon , engraved handle (bright cut) marked with a "B" in a circle, followed by "B.J." followed by another "B" in a circle... No idea about this one...? --- Post split: see following post --- IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 03-10-2002 03:11 PM
-- Post continued -- #16 this one is strange... Fiddle and wings stuffing spoon with the following marks an "R", in double circles, followed by a "77", followed by a "70", followed by and "OK", followed by a "V" in a circle of hatch mark designs (see pictures) all marks are underneath each preceding one...? # 17 is a Fiddle w/wings teaspoon I just figured out who the maker is, Ezra Whiton of Boston so no mystery there... #18 is a heavy teaspoon with Bright cut marked "Bigelow.Kennard&Co" with a "925" so again no mystery... #19 the last but not least... a pair of tongs, about 6 inches long bright cut with the following markings... "IR", a separate mark of what appears to be a lizard or salamander... and a "shield Cartouche" contain 3 "X" s... sound familiar to anyone...? IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 03-10-2002 03:13 PM
Number 13 is Rufus K. Twambley whose last name is also found in records spelled Twombly. He worked in both Saco and Biddeford Maine and is found listed in various directories from 1849-1877, sometimes alone and sometimes as partner in both Twombly & Smith and Twombly & Cleaves. No indication of who Smith and Cleaves might be. IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 03-10-2002 04:06 PM
Here's a few more answers for you: #8 is John J. and Daniel W. Low working in Boston 1828-1833. In 1841 John and another brother, Francis, formed Lows, Ball & Co. with True Ball and Nathaniel Poor. #10/11 is William Pendleton Burdick working in New Haven, 1813-1814 with Thomas Ufford as UFFORD & BURDICK. Working in Ithaca NY in 1815-1820. He was still listed in the 1830 census as a silversmith, but apparently was not working at that occupation. Two sons were also listed in the trade: William, Jr. and Jedediah Stark Burdick. I also found a note in Belden concerning his mark with the rather odd first letter; it appears that it is his 'half' of a punch that originally read UFFORD & BURDICK, the cut going through the &. #19 I am not sure of the maker (possibly John Robertson) but the tongs were made c 1790 in Newcastle England. The 3 x's are actually 3 towers, the city symbol. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 03-10-2002).] IP: Logged |
bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 05-19-2008 12:07 AM
quote: Old post. In the 1860 U S Federal Census for Saco, Maine Albert K Cleaves in residing with Rufus Twambley and family. In the 1866 and later Biddeford directories there is a Samuel G Twambly in business with an Albert K Cleaves. They are listed as jewelers & etc at 130 Main Street in the Crystal Arcade. Possibly the K in Albert's name was for King? IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 05-19-2008 11:56 AM
#12 and #16 are not American (provided the mark in 12 is the 13 Lot standard mark and not a letter B). IP: Logged |
Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 05-20-2008 09:48 PM
#12 is likely Austrian. #16 is Breslau, Germany 1877. IP: Logged |
bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 03-30-2010 09:57 PM
quote: The two gentlemen in the partnership of Twambley & Smith were Charles Twambley and Daniel Smith Jr who were dealers in hardware and building materials as well as watches, jewelry, crockery and etc. IP: Logged |
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