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Marc unregistered |
posted 06-12-2002 10:12 PM
Hi there all, I have seven pieces of coin silver whose makers I have not been able to find. I would appreciate any help that can be provided. The photos are below. 1. " V. BOARDMAN" , on a flat handled master butter knife. 2. "Bust TF Eagle P" , on a nice pair of sugar tongs. 3. "PB superscript 's' ", "Lion", "S superscript 't', J" , on the back of a 6" long oval end mustard ladle. 4. "T. ?" , on the back of a 4 1/2" long spatulate handled, midrib front, block 5. " W. D. STEWARD" , on the back of a 6" fiddle handled mustard ladle. 6. "I.V" in a shield, a thingy in a square cartouche, and an upsidedown "P"? in a third cartouche. These marks are on the 7. "MONROE & MORROW" retailers mark on a fiddle thread flat handled master butter, made by Wood & Hughs. The tag on it said "Selma Alabama" but I do not have the Alabama If you need photos of the pieces let me know.. Always happy to send them
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-12-2002 10:41 PM
I am afraid I only have a minute, but two I can give you off the top of my head: 2. Thomas Charles Fletcher (1787-1866) working in Boston till 1810, then Philadelphia. A fine silversmith, half of GARDINER (Sydney) & FLETCHER, working 1813-1825 and FLETCHER & BENNETT (Calvin), 1835-1837. 6. John Vernon, working in New York City 1786-1787 as partner to Thomas Underhill and alone 1789-1817. The middle mark is an eagle's head in profile. IP: Logged |
FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 06-12-2002 10:52 PM
#2 is Thomas Charles Fletcher of Boston & Philadelphia 1787-1866. #6 is John Vernon of NY 1780's-1800. These were taken from Belden's book. I'll keep looking. IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-13-2002 12:22 AM
I believe mark 4 should be rotated 180 degrees: I can't place the maker, but it is very familiar. IP: Logged |
melissa unregistered |
posted 06-13-2002 10:38 AM
Hello all, re: #7, The March '71 issue of Magazine Antiques lists Nathaniel Monroe working as a silversmith & watchmaker in Selma 1842, 1850, (no mention of a Morrow) the dates were taken from local newspapers and directories. Perhaps he worked in a partnership? Also, could #3 be Canadian? St. John or St. Joseph.....looks like a Canadian mark to me. Wish I could be of more help. IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-13-2002 11:09 AM
Thanks for the nudge, Melissa. Number 3 is the mark of the Page Brothers of St John, New Brunswick. Richard and William Clement Page went into partnership in 1870 with a shop at 41 Kings Street. Advertisements in Stewards Quarterly offer ". . . fine gold jewelry of our own make." The brothers went their seperate ways in 1876. Three generations of the Page family worked as silversmiths and jewelry makers in New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Amherst MA. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 06-13-2002).] IP: Logged |
Bill H Posts: 31 |
posted 06-13-2002 11:47 PM
In the exhibition catalog, MADE IN ALABAMA published by the Birmingham Museum of Art for an exhibit running from 1994-1996, there is a punch ladle provided by anoymous loan, fiddle thread pattern, marked MONROE & MORROW for Nathaniel Monroe (b. 1811) and John Morrow (b. 1820), silver merchants, Selma (working ca. 1840-74) IP: Logged |
Bill H Posts: 31 |
posted 06-13-2002 11:59 PM
Mark #1, V. Boardman, may well be for Volney Boardman working in Greensboro Alabama ca. 1840-50. According to James R. Cormany in his booklet, ALABAMA SILVERSMITHS-----LITTLE KNOWN CRAFTSMEN FROM A LONG FORGOTTON ERA, Volney Boardman was a silversmith and respected businessman in Hale County, next to Greene, and a port of it and surrounding counties until after the Civil WAr. IP: Logged |
Marc Posts: 414 |
posted 06-14-2002 01:14 AM
I would like to thank everyone who helped ID this group of marks. I have a few more that I need help with, but I will wait a little before I ask. Thanks again.. Marc IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-14-2002 10:06 AM
I had a note back from Winterthur on mark number 4 and they indicate that it is Benjamin Loring (1731-1798) of Boston. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 06-14-2002).] IP: Logged |
bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 04-13-2007 08:28 PM
quote: Not much of an addition to what has already been pointed out, but in the 1880 U. S. Federal Census. John Morrow's occupation is listed as watchmaker in Selma, Alabama. Watchmaker and spoon seller were definitely related businesses. IP: Logged |
bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 08-07-2008 10:16 PM
quote: A little bit more on Volney Boardman. He was born in Franklin County, Ohio in about 1811. He learned the trade of watchmaker and jeweler in Ohio and is said to have arrived in Alabama in 1832. He was a silversmith, jeweler, planter, and County Circuit Court Clerk. He established the first jewelry store in Greensboro, Alabama. IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 08-07-2008 10:41 PM
He was born on 22 August 1810. IP: Logged |
doc Posts: 728 |
posted 11-12-2018 06:02 PM
Did a site search and this older post came up. Of course, the name I was looking up, W.D. Steward, is the only one people didn't identify! Anyone have any update? IP: Logged |
avalata Posts: 61 |
posted 11-16-2018 07:56 PM
It appears the online community has identified a William D. Steward, working in White Creek, NY in the mid-19th Century. I didn't attempt to validate that, but it is a lead. IP: Logged |
doc Posts: 728 |
posted 11-19-2018 07:37 AM
Thank you-that makes sense based on where I found them. Appreciate it! IP: Logged |
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