SMP Logo
SM Publications
Silver Salon Forums - The premier site for discussing Silver.
SMP | Silver Salon Forums | SSF - Guidelines | SSF - FAQ | Silver Sales

The Silver Salon Forums
Since 1993
Over 11,793 threads & 64,769 posts !!
American Silver before sterling Forum

A GLOSSARY of MILLED BANDS
Past American Coin Silver Forum topics/threads worth a look
WEV's American Silversmith's Family Tree Project Smith's Index

How to Post Photos REGISTER (click here)

customtitle open  SMP Silver Salon Forums
tlineopen  American Silver before sterling
tline3open  William Little

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

ForumFriend SSFFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   William Little
valerie*

Posts: 6
Registered: Jul 2002

iconnumber posted 07-29-2002 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for valerie*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These large 6 1/2" tongs are marked with what I believe is William Coffin Little's trademark.

Can this style tong be this early (1745-1816 Beldens)?

Is there a name for the handle design?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank You!!
Valerie

IP: Logged

wev
Moderator

Posts: 4121
Registered: Apr 99

iconnumber posted 07-29-2002 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There has been some confusion surrounding the Little's. It was posited in the 1950s that there were three makers by that name:
William Little (working 1725-1775), his son William Coffin Little (1745-1816), and his son William Coffin Little (1771-1836). All used a WL mark, and, to reconcile the seeming contradictions in dates and styles of examples, it was assumed that the various punches had been passed father to son. The existence of the first William Little was based on a single example, a sword hilt supposed to date c 1725. Since this was too early for the known William Coffin Little's, a silversmith father was invented. This was blustered by advertisements of the 1770s signed William Little and others signed William Coffin Little. This explanation was adopted by Belden's Marks of American Silversmiths and other references.

Unfortunately, there was no William Little. The record was laid right in Simple Elegance, published by the Historical Society of Old Newbury in 1998 and verified by my own research into the family line. William Coffin Little's parents were John Little, a Newburyport teamster, and Temperence Ripp. His paternal great grandmother was Lydia Coffin and paternal grandfather William Ripp, his name honouring them both. Where or with whom William Senior took his training is not known, but he worked in Newburyport until 1790, when he moved to Amesbury MA and continued working for another decade. He then retired to Salisbury NH and took up farming. From extent records, it appears that William Senior used his middle name indiscriminately until his son reached maturity, then used it consistently. William Junior presumably learned the trade from his father and probably did his early work in Newburyport, before moving to Philadelphia c 1813. His working dates are cut off in the standard references at 1819, but I have found nothing to substantiate this end. He would only have been 48 years old and lived for 17 more. I believe that he continued working, though perhaps not in Philadelphia, and is a likely candidate for the maker of your tongs.

IP: Logged

wev
Moderator

Posts: 4121
Registered: Apr 99

iconnumber posted 07-29-2002 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I rather like blustered for bolstered, so won't change it.

[This message has been edited by wev (edited 07-29-2002).]

IP: Logged

All times are ET

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a


1. Public Silver Forums (open Free membership) - anyone with a valid e-mail address may register. Once you have received your Silver Salon Forum password, and then if you abide by the Silver Salon Forum Guidelines, you may start a thread or post a reply in the New Members' Forum. New Members who show a continued willingness to participate, to completely read and abide by the Guidelines will be allowed to post to the Member Public Forums.
Click here to Register for a Free password

2. Private Silver Salon Forums (invitational or $ donation membership) - The Private Silver Salon Forums require registration and special authorization to view, search, start a thread or to post a reply. Special authorization can be obtained in one of several ways: by Invitation; Annual $ Donation; or via Special Limited Membership. For more details click here (under development).

3. Administrative/Special Private Forums (special membership required) - These forums are reserved for special subjects or administrative discussion. These forums are not open to the public and require special authorization to view or post.


| Home | Order | The Guide to Evaluating Gold & Silver Objects | The Book of Silver
| Update BOS Registration | Silver Library | For Sale | Our Wants List | Silver Dealers | Speakers Bureau |
| Silversmiths | How to set a table | Shows | SMP | Silver News |
copyright © 1993 - 2022 SM Publications
All Rights Reserved.
Legal & Privacy Notices