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valerie* Posts: 6 |
posted 11-14-2002 08:52 PM
  
We have a pair of early coin silver spoons that we are having trouble attributing a maker to. Can anyone shed any light on this silversmith? Thank you!  IP: Logged |
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WGS Posts: 136 |
posted 11-15-2002 09:59 AM
Based on the mark and not the style and according to Belden, possibly William Gale, New York - 1799-1867 or William Ghiselin, Philadelphia - d. 1782 or less likely William Grigg, New York, etc. - d. 1797 ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 11-15-2002 02:43 PM
Hmm. The bright-cutting style makes me think New England. It isn't as elaborate as what you often see out of Philadelphia, but not as restrained as New York. These are just my thoughts, though. Brent IP: Logged |
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Sandra Posts: 5 |
posted 11-18-2002 05:02 PM
I think these are probably Irish, c. 1800, not American....you often find Irish flatware with no mark except the maker IP: Logged |
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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 11-19-2002 10:33 AM
Hello Sandra, The Irish attribution is a good possibility. Are there any style clues that lead you to your conclusion, or is it just the lack of hallmarks and the unfamiliarity of the maker's mark? The more I think of it, the more I realize that the combination of block initials and bright-cutting is something I have seen quite often on English pieces, but not so much on American. Out of curiosity, Valerie, where exactly is the maker's mark struck? Is it high up towards the tip of the handle, or down lower? Also, are these tablespoons or teaspoons? Brent IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-19-2002 11:04 AM
There is a similar mark tentatively ascribed to William Gethin, working in Dublin c 1775-1812. I wondered about the drop -- it appears to have a decorative molding to it, but it's hard to be sure. Could we see a better shot of it? IP: Logged |
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valerie* Posts: 6 |
posted 11-19-2002 11:41 AM
The mark is almost in the middle. I've added a picture of the entire back. Also another of the drop, which shows a faint outline of a small foliate branch under the drop, like a picture back. Yesterday I listed the pair for sale on eBay item #923423766. I think perhaps I have jumped the gun on listing them and should have waited for more accurate information. Itis linked to this page. Thank you for all your help! Valerie IP: Logged |
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 11-19-2002 01:51 PM
I think the Georgian Irish attribution is a good possibility. IP: Logged |
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Sandra Posts: 5 |
posted 11-20-2002 02:43 PM
Brent...the bright cut decoration is very Irish at the turn of the 19th century...(also seen in England) but there is something about this pointed form that looks Irish to me...I would bet a pretty penny that is the answer! Sandy IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 05-31-2008 12:15 PM
Old post. Not that it really sheds much light on this matter, but there was a silversmith named William Gale at 29 Liberty St in New York City in 1821. IP: Logged |
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