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PREOWNEDBOATS1 Posts: 3 |
posted 06-24-2003 11:27 PM
  
Sorry about that last post. I'll try again. This first maker is Daniel White. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-24-2003 11:37 PM
Daniel White is undoubtedly the retailer. What is the small mark at the bowl/handle junction? IP: Logged |
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Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 06-25-2003 12:07 AM
From the photos the first mark near the bowl looks to me like "COIN", as in coin silver. Wev, what makes you undoubtedly sure that Daniel White must be the manufacturer? Thanks, Patrick IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-25-2003 12:19 AM
Not the manufacturer, but the retailer. This is generally a good guess when it is a late coin piece, patterned, marked incuse, and by an unknown individual. The pattern looks familiar (I will leave identification to more knowledgable folks) and was probably supplied from one of the large production houses. Such practice was typical and made good sense -- the cost of laying in the machinery, staffing a shop, and cutting the dies was well more than the cost of buying wholesale and adding your own mark or having it done for you. IP: Logged |
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PREOWNEDBOATS1 Posts: 3 |
posted 06-25-2003 12:43 AM
Let me back up just a bit. First I'll apologize for the size of the first pics. I did reload them in a smaller size and hope that works. I'm a bit green to coin silver and it's history. Maybe if I post a few names at a time we can eliminate the known from the retailer? Titcomb, Smith & Clapp, H.F.Skerry, O.H.Baker, *F & H*, Daniel White(some marked coin some not) We can go from here with pics or whatever. Thanks IP: Logged |
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Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 06-25-2003 01:00 AM
Thanks Wev, a slip of the pen (or keyboard) over manufacturer/retailer, sorry. What you say about marketing certainly makes sense. IP: Logged |
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Trefid Posts: 96 |
posted 09-13-2003 08:38 AM
Out of your list of names, the only one I recognize as a maker is *F&H*, which is Farrington & Hunnewell out of Boston. IP: Logged |
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doc Posts: 728 |
posted 09-28-2003 06:04 PM
In reply to your list of makers/retailers, Daniel White is listed in Fredyma "A Directory of Maine Silversmiths" as being a retailer from Bangor, Maine in 1875. Smith & Clapp is also listed in Fredyma as a manufacturer from Bangor, c. 1836 (also cited in The Heritage Foundation Collection of Silver by Henry Flynt & Martha Gandy Fales). Likewise, there is a listing in Fredyma for an Albert Titcomb, retailer and watch and clock maker, in Bangor 1802-1890. Again, an educated guess (also references the Heritage Collection as a source) There is a listing in Fredyma for a Smith & Skerry in Bangor, c. 1846, so given the origin of some of your other items, this would be a likely guess for origin of your Skerry item. No luck on the O.H. Baker! IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 07-27-2008 01:17 AM
There is a Henry F Skerry in Bangor, Maine in the 1850 U S Federal Census who was born in Maine in about 1822 and is listed as a merchant. In later census's he is in Salem, Massachusetts and is listed as a jeweler in 1860 and a Fancy Goods Dealer in 1870 and 1880, so naturally Doc's lookup is no doubt correct. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 07-07-2009 06:58 AM
There was also a silversmith and jeweler named Daniel White in Portsmouth, Ohio who advertised that he had been in business in Portsmouth since 1872. Daniel and his wife Isobel both passed away on Christmas Eve day in 1913, he of heart failure and she following within hours also from heart trouble. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 03-28-2011 12:43 PM
Another possible identification for this old repost that also goes along with the Bangor, Maine location is Oliver Harrison Baker who was born in New Hampshire in 1834. IRS records for the 1860's list an Oliver H Baker who paid taxes as a retail merchant in Bangor, Maine. I haven't seen anything yet that positively identifies this same gentleman as a jeweler, but records do indicate that Oliver Harrison Baker was a jeweler and retailer in Topeka, Kansas in the fourth quarter of the nineteenth century.
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 04-08-2011 04:58 PM
And now I do find an Oliver H Baker listed as a jeweler in Thomaston, Maine in 1863. He was born in New Hampshire in about 1834. IP: Logged |
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