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Russell Posts: 52 |
posted 11-26-2003 09:40 PM
  
Hi All, I have a spoon that might be of some interest. It may have been made by William Moulton III of Newburyport MA, circa 1772. It is marked W (pellet) M in a rectangle (see Wyler, The Book of Old Silver, 1966, p 304).It is the size and shape of a tea spoon but has a pointed tip - not unlike a grapefruit spoon. The area where the handle meets the bowl does not display a "tail" of any king - just two incised lines to indicate the area. The engraving on the handle is bright cut and there are three letters engraved on it - "CSA", that seem to have been added at a later date. The S is raised above the C + A, and is actually over a plus sign that is between the C and A. I'm wondering if these letters allude to the Confederate States of America. Does anyone know about old American silver that might have been used as state silver for the confederacy? Any info would be appreciated. Thank you. Russell IP: Logged |
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Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 11-26-2003 10:34 PM
Recently I've seen similar examples, but I'm afraid I can't remember where  But, although the initials were different, I seem to recall they were husband and wife - thus S would be the surname and C and A the two first names. Even so, sounds like a nice spoon - any chance of a photo? IP: Logged |
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Russell Posts: 52 |
posted 11-28-2003 09:07 AM
Hi Patrick, Thank you for your response. At the moment, Paint Shop Pro 8 will not allow me to save a file to any format accept Paint Shop Pro Image. Just as soon as they fix their problem and allow me to save to a JPEG, I will send you a photo or two. Thanks again. Russell IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 11-28-2003 10:47 AM
Another possibility for the maker may be William Moulton IV who started business in 1796. The pointed tip bowl you describe is more in style with the later period. William the IV also is known to have used the W pellet M as one of his marks. A spoon made by his grandfather would most likely display a shell decorated bowl instead of the incised drop you describe. Bright cutting was also popular during the 1790s. Without an image it is difficult to make any further observations. Are the initials in script or block letters? The use of the three initials as you describe was a popular method of identifying the owners of the silver and are as Patrick explained. The top initial would signify the surname and the bottoms would be the given names of the husband and wife. I look foreward to seeing the images. Fred IP: Logged |
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Russell Posts: 52 |
posted 11-28-2003 11:05 AM
Hi All, This is the first time I ever tried to send a photo to a web site. I hope it works and I hope the file is not too big. Thanks for your response Fred. IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 11-29-2003 10:14 AM
Russell, The image matches the 1790's to early 1800's shape and decoration. The maker would probably be Willam Moulton IV and not his grandfather. The block letters are uncommon for this later period. The use of them may have been the request of the original owners. The condition seems in fairly good shape with little wear to the bowl and engraving. This is the shape I often use to eat my ice-cream or berries and cream. Thanks for the image. IP: Logged |
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Russell Posts: 52 |
posted 11-29-2003 11:52 AM
Hi Fred, Thank you for your response. My Wyler does not list a William Moulton IV, I never knew there was one. This is the first time I sent a photo to a web site and I hope the size is/was not offensive. Yes, sterling silver and icecream certainly do go together! Russ IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-29-2003 12:34 PM
You might want to take a look at William Moulton for information on him and the other Moultons various. I prefer custard. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 06-29-2009).] IP: Logged |
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Russell Posts: 52 |
posted 11-29-2003 08:41 PM
Hi Wev Thank you for the link, I never really knew the Moultons were a clan. I suppose they were quite prolific over the years. I'll be looking for more of their work. I ate my Thanksgiving chocolate pudding with an 18th century English sterling silver spoon - being a snob can be so delightful at times - yummy. There really is something about the way the silver transmits the material into one's mouth...Oh, well... Thanks again. Russ IP: Logged |
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