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Duncan unregistered |
posted 04-28-2004 04:54 PM
 
I have a silver service which includes a coffee pot, tea pot, creamer and waste bowl from R. & W. Wilson which also has the imprint of C. Gobrecht. Gobrecht was the chief engraver of the US Mint in Philadelphia and famous for his 1836 seated silver dollar. I have found no other pieces of R. & W. Wilson with the Gobrecht imprint. Can anyone tell me the connection between Gobrecht and Wilson? IP: Logged |
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flabob Posts: 39 |
posted 05-16-2004 11:52 AM
Yours is a very interesting piece, nothing at all what I expected in reading the post, and one that has definately got my curiosity up. Maybe I can find something on the relationship. Best! IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 05-16-2004 01:36 PM
Christian Gobrecht was listed in Philadelphia directories as an engraver from 1819 - 1844. R&W Wilson were prolific makers of silver, also in Philadelphia. either Gobrecht also retailed silver, or he marked pieces which he engraved. What sort of engraving is on the pieces in the set? [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 05-16-2004).] IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 05-20-2004 09:26 PM
Here are some images: IP: Logged |
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flabob Posts: 39 |
posted 05-26-2004 01:49 AM
Hi Duncan Didn't find much.. Christian Gobrecht is listed in the Kovell's "A Directory of American Silver, Pewter, and Silver Plate" as working in Phily circa 1819-44. This info they obtained from Brix, Maurice. "List of Philadelphia Silversmiths and Allied Artificers, 1682-1850". Phily, privately printed 1920. Hope this helps a little. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 11-13-2008 03:56 AM
Christian Gobrecht was the Assistant Chief Engraver for the United States Mint from 1835 to 1840 and the Chief Engraver for the United States Mint from 1840 to 1844. IP: Logged |
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ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 04-27-2015 04:35 AM
Two weeks ago, we were hauling old books and records out of a bookcase in a room to be painted. Removing the last of the LPs revealed a silver teapot that has sat there for the last 20+ years, unseen and unpolished -- indeed, literally ignored, in that I had no idea it even existed. Convinced that it was silverplate, I began dusting it off, and took a look at the base for any marks. Whoa! It's coin and made by R&W Wilson -- identical to one sold early this year by a collector-seller (see picture) except of course not quite so pristine. But it really is identical: same body, handle, same pattern of milled bands, and the same monogram.(!) The monogram is intriguing, because the teapot here was most likely a gift to my great-great-grandparents sometime between 1855 and 1880, and the monogram initials (and probable date of production) indicate it was a piece already in the Philadelphia family my Virginia-raised great-great-grandmother married into. Image posting skills have deteriorated through disuse; help appreciated. IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 04-27-2015 12:49 PM
Very nice! Congratulations on your "find." It is wonderful to have pieces with one's family history. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 04-27-2015 06:42 PM
Great find that should encourage all us to do some looking. Congratulations. I think that LPs are making a minor resurgence as new ones are for sale in a local bookstore. IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 04-28-2015 03:07 PM
Wow! If I take everything out of my bookcases, will I find a treasure like that too????? IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 04-28-2015 03:46 PM
The only silver things I find in my bookcase are silverfish. . . IP: Logged |
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ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 05-10-2015 12:39 PM
I have to say that finding the teapot was a MAJOR lift in the middle of some harried, hurried packing and cleaning. The self-reproach was the worst part (Why have we left this so long? Why did we wait until the last minute?) Now that that room's been painted, and the event for which the cleanup was done has happened successfully, it's as if a new room has been added to the house -- and I *think* we can keep things from getting so piled up from here on out. Question on the teapot: I maintain the sterling and coin flatware that we use perfectly well with Wright's, but am concerned about my ability to do justice to this pot. Many things give pause: the large expanse of smooth surface, the applied detail, the extent of the tarnish, and its significantly greater value than any other piece here. Should I just take a deep breath and proceed carefully? If not, to what kind of pro should I turn? IP: Logged |
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ellabee Posts: 306 |
posted 05-10-2015 12:58 PM
Having just read the 'Gorham loving cup' thread, I want to hire Chase to polish this!  IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 05-10-2015 03:33 PM
If you're hiring a "pro," be very careful in selecting him/her. Some favor speed and getting all the black off over maintaining detail and patina. IP: Logged |
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chase33 Posts: 362 |
posted 05-10-2015 11:47 PM
Why thanks so much ellabee! I hand polish all my silver and try very hard to get it right. IP: Logged |
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