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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 01-25-2005 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is another piece I've owned for years, can't even remember where it came from. Not sure if it's American coin. Unmarked, the engraved pattern appears to be mostly engine turned. Any opinions?

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 01-25-2005 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No reason that it could not be American, mid-Century or later. Probably not a named pattern.

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 01-27-2005 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cheryl,

The "engine turning" is hand engraving,a small bit of bright cut and wiggle and line engraving.

The engraver had a nice touch,and it is a handsome spoon, I like the drop on the back.

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Brent

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Certainly American, 1850s or 60s. Likely made by a large manufacturer, but left unmarked at the request of the retailer or wholesaler. Some retailers preferred to have their pieces marked only with their name, perhaps to claim an "exclusive" pattern or to promote the myth that they made their own silverware. Manufacturers would accomodate such retailers by leaving their trademarks off, and sometimes the retailer neglected to mark the wares, leaving a blank spoon like yours.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 01-27-2005 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the information! Took out my extra strong magnifier to look at the engraving and can't believe how uniform the wrigglework is. Very different from the European pieces I have. Was this done with some sort of wheel rather than zigzagging the graver back and forth? Have several pieces of unmarked coin, including a set of 12 teaspoons engraved with family initials (more instant heirlooms!), in a wonderful old plush box with satin lining, though suspect the box is a bit later than the spoons. Usually end up with them because the seller figures if it's not marked, it's not silver (works for me!). Happy to know more about this pretty piece.

Cheryl ;o)

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FredZ

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iconnumber posted 01-27-2005 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FredZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cheryl,

The wriggle work is not that difficult to accomplish with a polished flat graver. You can understand the process by taking a screwdriver and walking it back and forth along a wooden board. The distance can be controled by changing the angle of approach with the screwdriver. The width is determined by the width of the graver.

This sort of wriggle decoration is commonly used by modern "Western" engravers on buckles and jewelry.

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Fred: Rightly or wrongly, this type of decoration is often referred to as rouletting or roulette work (see 472 in Belden's Glossary of terminology).
Can this also be done with a rouletting wheel, or is that only possible for single or parallel rows of dots?

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FredZ

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I am glad you brought up Belden's definition in her monumental book. I believe she is in error. The first time I ever saw the term was in her book. I am used to seeing and using the term wrigglework. There is a tool used in jewelry to make a row of beads around the edge of a setting. The tool (miligrain tool)is a wheel with semicircular depressions that form a row of beads on an edge. Commonly used on white gold or platinum settings. I have never seen the tool Belden speaks of. I have a Dutch hoof spoon with the wriggle decoration used to simulate the fur on the leg. There are images of the spoon somewhere on the forum. I admire the research Ms. Belden made and the effort it took to publish the monumental book... and there are errors.

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