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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 04-16-2005 01:43 PM
  
I'm wondering if anyone has come across spoons by Cyrus Durand of Newark, uncle to Asher Durand the artist. (Durand in one word, italic, in a conforming rectangle). We have a teaspoon at The Newark Museum, but I just purchased another pair, and these are the only three I've ever even heard of...I don't know of any in other museums, etc. There must be some out there and wanted to know who else might have heard of any. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 04-16-2005 01:59 PM
Here is a picture of the gent I imagine his silver is quite scarce -- he was primarily an engraver and inventor, doing a lot of contract work for the government in partnership with his brother (not nephew), Asher Brown Durand, a founder of the Hudson River school. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 04-16-2005 02:04 PM
Having posted that, are you sure the mark belongs to Cyrus? His father John (1745-1813) and grandfather Samuel (1713-1787) were both silversmiths and watchmakers. I have never seen a mark for either. Belden shows the italic mark, on a coffin end spoon, as unattributed, noting a quartet of related Durand's -- Henry, Louis, James, and John, working as watchmakers, casemakers, and silversmiths in New York in the 1830s What sort of date and style are the spoons? [This message has been edited by wev (edited 04-16-2005).] IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 04-19-2005 09:52 AM
Interesting. Our spoon is marked "C. Durand" so I think that is pretty conclusive. The spoon in Newark's collection is a modified coffin-end, but very slender and "Federal." The spoons I just bought are marked only DURAND in italics as in Belden. Frankly, I didn't notice that before I bought them. Cyrus lived quite a long time (enough to see his nephew James Madison Durand start a major jewelry company in Newark) and I suspect he's the most likely candidate. The other Durands' dates don't really jibe. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 04-19-2005 10:01 AM
I wouldn't eliminate James Madison's father and Cyrus' brother Henry (1780-1846), who was working as a silversmith and jeweler in South Orange c 1800-1845. IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 04-19-2005 10:01 AM
That image looks more like an elderly Asher Durand--sure it's Cyrus? I know I've seen images of Cyrus (remember I live in Maplewood, hometown of the Durands, and there are Durand freaks in residence). Here's the Museum's spoon, marked C.Durand  IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 03-15-2009 06:48 AM
According to the 1851-52 City Directory for Newark, New Jersey by B T Pierson, J M Durand and John Annin (Durand & Annin) were manufacturers of rich watch cases and dials at 36 Walnut Street. IP: Logged |
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cbc58 Posts: 333 |
posted 04-08-2021 04:18 PM
Just by chance I happened to acquire a spoon marked "Durand" and came across this thread. It is identical to the one at Winterthur, though the mark on mine is clearer and the monogram is worn but in slightly better condition. After spending some time looking closely at the monograms - I am pretty sure these spoons are from the same set. How cool is that? Is Durand a hard to find maker? I went to WEV's site and there are a whole bunch of Durands listed - and the C. Durand mark and the plain Durand mark look identical except that one does not have the C. from Winterthur.org/ [This message has been edited by Scott Martin (edited 04-08-2021).] IP: Logged |
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