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middletom

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iconnumber posted 04-28-2005 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for middletom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When, in this country, did silverware makers switch from coin silver to sterling? Was the change quick or slow? Is there a date generally given as the demarcation? And, why was the switch made?

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 04-29-2005 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "switch" was not immediate, and actually took several decades, from what I understand. I believe that Tiffany & Co. was among the first to adopt the sterling standard, about 1851. Gorham made the switch about 1868. Sterling became the American standard by around 1870, but many makers were still producing coin for some time beyond then. As for why the change was made, English silver of course had always been of sterling quality, and although tariffs were imposed on English sterling coming into the U.S. in order to protect local producers, many makers wanted to emulate and stay in competition with the standards of the English.

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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 04-29-2005 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Different standards of silver have existed side-by-side in several European countries such as France and Germany. So I wonder whether the change in the US was merely to conform with English practice. After all the difference between 900 and 925 is minimal compared to, for example, 800 and 950.

My own feeling is that the switch had more to do with the economic factors of supply and availability. I stand to be corrected by numismatists, but I believe that the silver dollar enjoyed scarce circulation during the 1860s - in part due to instability in the relation between silver and gold. So, if silversmiths had previously used coins as their source - the source was drying up!

During the same decade, however, there was an enormous expansion in silver mining. According to one source, from less than $50,000 worth of silver produced in 1849 (primarily as a by-product of gold mining) the value climbed to $10,000,000 by 1864. Even so much ended up in Europe to pay debts incurred in the Civil War, and additional silver had to be imported from Mexico. So perhaps silversmiths were buying in their raw material directly from the mines, and perhaps here the standard was higher? Certainly falling silver prices would make the change from coin to sterling financially less noticeable.

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 04-30-2005 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patrick: In Tiffany Silver, Carpenter writes
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It was often customary in this country to mark silver: coin, pure coin, coin silver, dollar, standard. However, these terms could be misleading since the coins used were usually foreign and of uncertain silver content... Most silver, marked coin, etc., shows a silver content of 850 to 900-1000ths...

In Gorham Silver

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Sterling had been the standard in England since 1300. The fact that Gorham aspired to sell wares in England may have been a factor in their going to sterling.

In Tiffany Silver Flatware Dr. Hood writes

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Charles L. Tiffany realized, nevertheless, that the British sterling standard was the one to be emulated and early on strived to make sure that Tiffany's silverware was upgraded from 'coin'... to sterling.


I'm sure there were a number of factors, but I would guess that once one prominent firm made the upgrade, the rest had to keep up if they intended to remain in competition. If the act of January 18, 1837 made .900 the standard, and even when the difference between .900 coin and sterling is only .025, there was surely some kind of cultural prestige in "Sterling" silver.

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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 05-05-2005 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I certainly take the point about fashion, but even so the introduction of sterling by Tiffany and Gorham is some 15 years apart.

Searching through older postings, I see several previous postings have dealt with the theme. In American coin silver
WEV provided the figures of analysis of silver content of several Californian pieces. Several were marked "sterling" but proved to be significantly lower:
Vanderslice; Comstock teaspoon, 1875: 742/1000
Schulz & Fisher; 5 Star teaspoon, 1880: 881/1000
Schulz & Fisher; Faralone teaspoon, 1880: 898/1000
So, even if the piece was marked "sterling", it ain't necessarily so! Has this analysis been extended to other areas?
WEV also listed several accounts of silversmiths with barrels of Spanish dollars in the first half of the 19th century.
Elsewhere, When Coin Evolved to Sterling
Richard Kurtzman cites an 1868 article about Gorham which apparently used coins and added pure silver to bring the standard up to sterling.

So, how quicky or slowly did home-mined American silver find its way to silversmiths?

The Comstock Lode yielded $400 million in silver and gold between 1859 and 1878 peaking in 1877, with the mines producing $21,000,000 of silver that year alone. Certainly much of this silver was initially exported - some to pay war debts, but more perhaps to buy in gold. However the 1870s saw a widespread fall in silver price due both to over-suppy and falling demand. In 1876 a committee reported to London's parliament on the depreciation of silver:
"Your Committee are of opinion that the evidence taken conclusively shews that the fall in the price of silver is due to the following causes:
"(1) To the discovery of new silver mines of great richness in the State of Nevada.
"(2) To the introduction of a gold currency into Germany in place of the previous silver currency. This operation commenced at the end of 1871.
"(3) To the decreased demand for silver for export to India.
"It should be added:
"(4) That the Scandinavian governments have also substituted gold for silver in their currency.
"(5) That the Latin Union, comprising France, Belgium, Switzerland, Italy, and Greece, have since 1874 limited the amount of silver to be coined yearly in the Mints of each member of the Union, suspending the privilege formerly accorded to all holders of silver bullion of claiming to have that bullion turned into coin without restriction.
"(6) That Holland has also passed a temporary act prohibiting, except on account of the Government, the coining of silver, and authorizing the coining of gold.

"It will be observed that two sets of causes have been simultaneously in operation. The increased production of the newly discovered mines, and the surplus silver thrown on the market by Germany, have affected the supply. At the same time the decreased amounts required for India, and the decreased purchases of silver by the members of the Latin Union, have affected the demand. A serious fall in the price of silver was therefore inevitable."

So did the falling need for silver for monetary purposes translate into an increased demand for silver objects? I'm certain the answer is yes.

And the switch to sterling standard, I am still convinced has something to do with the switch of sources from Mexican dollars to silver ingots from American mines. At least one of the millionaires from the Comstock Lode, John W. Mackay, was originally from Ireland, did this then have any bearing on the standard of purity which he chose? And furthermore, the difficulties of mining the Comstock Lode gave rise to significant technological improvements - could not such a climate have contributed to similar improvements in purity superior to that obtained in Colonial Mexico?

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 08-20-2005 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Firstly, about Mackay and the Comstock Lode:
The famous Mackay flatware service was not undertaken by Tiffany & Co until 1877-78, some quarter century after Tiffany had converted to the sterling standard (Mackay was not associated with the Comstock Lode until about 1859). As I mentioned above, by 1870 or so, sterling had already become the American standard.

Additionally, based on the illustrations and text of Dr. Hood's book on Tiffany flatware, I see no indication that the Mackay service is marked sterling at all. In fact, the only marks mentioned or displayed are Tiffany & Co - Pat. 1878. I should add that Dr. Hood was very consistent in indicating all the marks on flatware featured in his book. May I assume that the Mackay service did not bear the sterling mark? I mean, it's not as though they had to impress anybody, so I suppose the quality stamp would have been superfluous.

Secondly, I was reading about the Bailey, Banks & Biddle Co. in Rainwater's Encyclopedia..., and ran across an interesting quote from the Bailey & Company History of Silver, Ancient and Modern

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[Bailey & Company] claim the distinction of having first introduced silver of the full British standard of 925-1000 the American standard being but 900...
Of course, since the company put out this publication itself, there's bound to have been a little embellishment for publicity's sake, but does anyone happen to have the exact date for Bailey & Company's switch to sterling?

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 08-22-2005 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Bailey was tooting its own horn. There was a very early sterling mark "STER.AMERI.MAN" for Sterling American Manufacture, used in Philadelphia in the 1809-1812 period by Simeon Chaudron and Anthony Rasch. I believe this is the earliest use of "sterling" stamped on American silver. (This from Ian Quimby's book on the silver at Winterthur). Samuel Kirk also attempted to use a variant of a sterling hallmark (not the word) in the late 1820s, but neither of these "took."

I'm floored to see the low silver content of the California pieces. That seems far lower than I'd expect on any coin silver in the USA.

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