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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 05-29-2006 10:46 AM
  
Coin rescue Even thought the marks on some coin silver were not immediately familiar, when the dealer offered it at such a low price we purchase it. It ws to make sure the items didn't get purchase by a speculator and get melted for scrape. When time permits I will post some photos. Two are marked B. Bement The others were not readily revealing in the limited time I had to look. I will post photos when I get the time. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 05-30-2006 07:28 PM
The www in a shield is attributed to William W. Willard by McGrew. McGrew lists Willard as a silversmith working in Syracuse, NY. THis mark was also found on silver retailed by B. Allen of Ohio/Chicago and Otto Wettstein of Flagg, IL. At separate times Willard was in business with Stokes in Casanovia, NY and Hawley in Syracuse. IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 05-31-2006 04:11 PM
I have never known that there was a silversmith, or even a silver retailer, in 19th-century Cazenovia--which is near Syracuse (and where I lived for 17 years). I'd love to see pictures. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-04-2006 01:21 PM
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-04-2006 01:22 PM
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-04-2006 01:57 PM
WEV Are you suggesting the W.W/W mark might not be attributable to William Wallace Willard? The period does seem to be in the wrong place for William W. Willard or W. W. Willard ??? And if William Wallace Willard why not W W/W without a single period??? IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-04-2006 02:25 PM
I think the dot is a design element, rather than a period in the grammatical sense. I have no firm evidence one way or the other; I have seen the attribution numerous times, but only as a statement of assumed fact. Willard's later career, after the partnership with John Hawley, is vague. His late-in-life marriage to Harriet Emma Lamb is recorded in the Antrium County MI records on 29 Sept 1872. When he moved there or if he was still working is unknown. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-04-2006 02:47 PM
Thanks Wev. Here is another example of the Bement mark with the eagle. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-04-2006 03:10 PM
I can add that Williard's first wife was Sarah Maria Stokes, who he married about 1831 in Cazenovia. I have had no luck tracing her family, but she is likely related to his first partner, Thomas(?) Stokes. She died some time after the birth of the last of their seven children in 1845. I just had a look at the 1880 census and their third son, Florello Gatanio (born 30 Nov 1840) is listed as a silversmith in Syracuse. I also ran across a note that William Willard was still living in the city in 1860, so it would seem likely that his son apprenticed in his shop and began working about 1860. I will try and find someone with access to the census for that year and see who is listed. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 06-04-2006).] IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 01-10-2009 01:28 AM
William W Willard with wife Sarah M and three sons, William H, F G , and Edward, all appear together in the 1860 U S Federal Census for Syracuse, New York. As well as F G, William followed his father in the trade as a watchmaker. William W, William H and Sarah also appear together in the 1870 U S Federal Census for Syracuse, New York. William W was a retired jeweler, and William H was a watchmaker. Sarah M was born in England. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 04-17-2011 03:06 PM
Butler Bement is listed in the 1850 Pittsfield, Massachusetts census as a jeweler and again in 1860 without an occupation but with a sizeable personal estate. IP: Logged |
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