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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 07-16-2006 03:58 PM
[19-0704] In the years following WWII, the Metropolitan Museum of Art had produced by Gorham a number of reproductions of early Colonial silver items in their collections. As listed in their undated catalog, there were 11 items, seven hollowware and four spoons. Largest and most ambitious of these was John Coney's teapot, a part of the Museum's Clearwater Collection. John Coney had become Boston's leading silversmith by shortly after 1700 and until his death in 1722 at the age of 67. He was apprenticed to Jeremiah Dummer, one of Boston's earliest silversmiths, and, according to Kane, he himself may have had at least as many as nine apprentices: Benjamin Hiller, Nathaniel Morse, Andrew Tyler, Peter Oliver, Thomas Bradford, Samuel Gray, Benjamin and Thomas Savage, and Paul Revere, Sr. He also employed a number of journeymen and is survived by more than 225 known pieces of silver of a wide variety of forms. Of the many surviving items, there is only one teapot known. Tea was introduced into the Colonies late in the 17th Century, and Coney's teapot, dating to around 1710 - 1720, may be the earliest New England example. In style it is a plain pear-shaped pot in the Early Rococo style of English and Dutch pots of the Queen Anne period. A greater number of New York examples of this form is known, but are of a more squat nature. Coney's pot is a departure from the earlier, heavily ornamented Baroque examples of the William and Mary period with its plain globular body, s-curved "duck-neck" or "swan-neck" spout, and scrolled handle. It bears a hinged, domed lid with a knopped finial. It displays the arms of its original owner, Jean Paul Mascarene, a Huguenot emigrant to Boston. The reproduction does not bear the arms, but was available with or without the elaborate surround that accompanied the arms on the original pot. The example illustrated here lacks that adornment. The reproduction is 5 3/4"in height, whereas the original was 5 1/8"; otherwise it appears a faithful copy, clearly marked underneath as a reproduction. Perhaps the size difference was intended to foil attempted counterfeiting of an original. Photographs have been widely published, and can be found in books such as those by Kane, Fales, and Hood (see the book thread Books: questions, mentions and reviews. for citations) but all I have seen are of the left side only. Although other views appear to be as expected, I thought it might be illustrative to show one or two of them. The original marks are given by Avery ( American Silver . . . [in the] . . .Clearwater Collection) as "(1) IC, crown above and cony [rabbit] below, in shaped shield, on lip to left of handle and on base; (2) IC in oval, on bezel." These marks are (c) and (f) in Kane (see also wev's entry forJohn Coney), and are not reproduced on the copy.
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adelapt Posts: 418 |
posted 07-16-2006 06:00 PM
"In style it is a plain pear-shaped pot in the Early Rococo style..." Thanks for the information and profiles of that graceful teapot Swarter. I can't reconcile the quote above though with the pot, as I see no rococo characteristics about it at all. I would be grateful if anyone could offer an explanation. IP: Logged |
outwest Posts: 390 |
posted 07-16-2006 07:35 PM
The finial?? IP: Logged |
argentum1 Posts: 602 |
posted 07-16-2006 07:55 PM
Early Rococo would be the unadorned scrollwork i.e. the handle and the spout. The shape of the pot might be loosely considered as a form of a scroll in profile. IP: Logged |
FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 07-16-2006 08:07 PM
Swarter, Can you tell if the piece was handwrought or if the body was spun? The images show signs of crude solder joints around the spout (perhaps just reflections in the photograph). Nice clean lines. Does this reproduction have a Gorham date mark? Fred IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 07-16-2006 11:36 PM
quote: No clues - the surface inside and out is perfectly smooth, no spinning lines, no seams, no hammer marks - and it is thick silver and quite heavy, weighing 18.16 oz troy (including the handle). quote: No crude solder - just reflections. No date mark - just the lion-anchor-G. There is a number "15" which repeats on the edge of the lid, along with "STERLING" - perhaps the individual number of the piece in the series (I do not know how many were made)? quote: The fully developed Rococo style we are most familiar with developed in the second half of the Century - the "double-bellied" or inverted pear-shaped pots that developed from this earlier single-bellied form, for instance. Argentum1 is correct in his comments; the engraving on the original is also characteristic. Unfortunately, I put away the books I was using in preparation for this post, and now cannot find the passage I would like to quote, but it involved the use of s-shaped and c-shaped curves, as in the spout, handle and body of this pot. This quote from Graham Hood's discussion of this pot may help, although it may be a little hard to wrap one's mind around: quote: [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 07-16-2006).] IP: Logged |
adelapt Posts: 418 |
posted 07-17-2006 01:57 AM
Thanks for that elucidation and Graham Hood's text, my education continues... IP: Logged |
FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 07-17-2006 09:31 AM
I suspect it was spun and carefully finished inside and out. A very classic piece. Fred IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 07-17-2006 03:53 PM
Is the Queen Anne style a subset of Rococo? IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 07-17-2006 05:27 PM
quote: Playing the name game can be tricky, as not everything fits a label, so I would defer to those more knowledgeable about styles, but it would seem that, if forms of the Rococo period developed from forms originating during the Queen Anne period, then the earlier period could not be a subset of the later one. It may be better to think of the Queen Anne period as one in which form predominated over decoration, falling between two periods in which decoration received a greater emphasis. [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 07-17-2006).] IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 07-17-2006 06:25 PM
Interestingly, while this simple pear shape did not persist long as a form of teapot, it persisted in canns and creamers well into the Rococo period. For an early creamer of this form see this thread Early cream pot -- provenance lost. IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 07-17-2006 09:56 PM
A similar teapot in style is pictured on the cover of "Silver in American Life" edited by Barbara McLean Ward and Gerald W.R. Ward and is shown below. This teapot is by Peter Van Dyck of New York and is stated in the book to be ca. 1720-1735. This and the Coney example certainly speak well for objects that simply use line and form for their visual beauty.
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 07-17-2006 10:40 PM
It should be pointed out that the Peter Van Dyck pot pictured is, as far as is known, unique in form. A more typical form of the same date, with some lovely cut work decoration indicating a Huguenot influence, is also in the Yale collection.
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 07-18-2006 12:54 AM
An interesting web site below relates to Queen Anne furniture, but much of it seems to me applicable to silver design. The French influence on design is also very interesting. [gone from the internet] IP: Logged |
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 07-26-2006 07:01 PM
The name game is indeed tricky. Colonial silver collectors would without question call this Queen Anne, although the term is entirely a collector's term developed in the late 19th century. It is stylistically linked to English and Dutch influences, and one could say it is late baroque or early Georgian (George I). The Hogarthian "line of beauty" crops up in the 1720s, after poor old Queen Anne has shuffled off her mortal coil. So early Georgian, but definitely pre-rococo. [This message has been edited by Ulysses Dietz (edited 07-28-2006).] IP: Logged |
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 07-28-2006 09:14 AM
And, I can't help point out, I have polished both of those fabulous Van Dyck teapots, many years ago, when I was student at Yale. IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 08-03-2006 02:22 PM
Thaks for your comments, Ulysses. It must have been a thrill to handle those teapots. Perhaps it is better to consider the Queen Anne as being a style rather than a period. However it arose, it is entrenched in the literature and common usage. The following is from the MMA Bulletin of 1983, Colonial silver in the American Wing, below their photograph of the Coney pot, and may be elucidative for earlier commentators: quote: And apropos of the two van Dyke pots posted earlier in this thread: quote: [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 08-03-2006).] IP: Logged |
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