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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 09-10-2006 09:58 AM
Hello all, Is anyone familiar with this pattern, or Spooner & Welch? I can not recall seeing this exact pattern before, and I am coming up empty on Spooner and/or Welch. I assume they were a retailer, but it would be nice to know where. Any ideas? Brent IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 09-10-2006 10:08 AM
From the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 1885: MR. WELCH RESENTS AN IMPUTATION ON HIS CHARACTER Mr. James CASEY, a pawnbroker, of Myrtle Avenue, near Bridge Street, owns a gold watch, the associations connected with which make it peculiarly valuable to his eyes. About April 1 he found his timekeeper stopped and that somehow some of the works had become disarranged or broken. He left it at Messrs. SPOONER & WELCH' s, Myrtle Avenue, to be repaired, and called for it on April 7. Mr. William H. WELCH was behind the counter, and handed Mr. CASEY the watch. He opened it, started, and said to Mr. WELCH: "My works have been taken out of this watch, and you've put in bogus ones. The works that were in this watch when I bought it are not here now." Mr. WELCH was startled, and examined the watch critically, after which he replied: "These are the same works you left here, and the watch has been properly repaired." Mr. CASEY used some rash language in reply, and Mr. WELCH hurried around the counter and hit his dissatisfied customer on the left cheek, with a force which knocked him down and cut his face. Two persons outside who were flattening their noses against the window panes, and Mr. SPOONER and some clerks inside, witnessed the fracas, and will give their version of the affair in the City Court shortly. Counselor Richard C. CURRAN a few days ago had a summons and complaint in a $2,000 damage suit served upon Mr. WELCH, to which no answer has yet been made. IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 09-10-2006 10:42 AM
I don't know who Mr. Welch was, but Charles S. Spooner was born in Newport RI in 1810. He was working in Brooklyn by 1832, when he married Amanda Rose. He is listed in the 1880 census as a manufacturing jeweler. IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 09-10-2006 01:51 PM
An interesting account. It only goes to show that all silver merchants were not necessarily of Sterling character. . . . IP: Logged |
Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 09-10-2006 10:45 PM
It is a pattern that will look familiar, appear to be a definite one, and probably be forever unknown. Best one could come up with would be to assign it to a family of patterns. Sorry, don't know a firm name. IP: Logged |
bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 01-21-2008 07:12 PM
The 1888,89 New York City Directory shows William H Welch who was born in New York in about 1823 in business with Charles S Spooner at 85 Myrtle Avenue, Brooklyn, NY. Both identify themselves as jewelers in this directory and in the census's. IP: Logged |
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 01-23-2008 10:20 PM
Never seen this one--but the pattern and the form (and the mark) look like they're early...1840s, and indeed among the earliest true patterns, like--what's it called? Albert? Doesn't look like those late 19th-century vaguely rococo designs--the fork looks broad and weighty. IP: Logged |
bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 01-24-2008 09:01 PM
The 1859 NYC Directory lists Spooner and Welch as jewellers at 73 Myrtle Ave. IP: Logged |
bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 02-07-2008 02:11 AM
While searching for someone else recently, I came across an Ephraim Spooner either from Connecticut or Rhode Island and a Samuel Sewall; both are 18th century New England goldsmiths. There names caught my eye from other postings, but unfortunately, I didn't make a note of there details. If there were found once though, no doubt, they can be found again. IP: Logged |
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