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wev
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iconnumber posted 11-13-2006 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was recently asked to help beta test a program that creates a tree plot of genealogical data. Having made the mistake of asking my old horse of a computer to try fifty furlongs at top speed, I am now trying things at a slow canter. It really has been fun seeing the family relationships and connections laid out graphically, instead of in my somewhat cloudy mind's eye. Here, for example, is a little stripped-down group of 37 people in 15 families that embraces 11 silversmiths and a clockmaker (highlighted in red).

I'm going to try out the Fletcher family next, but I'll need a good nights sleep first.

(for those with a sharp eye and curiosity, Abraham and Theodore Adriance were first cousins)

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2006 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me it's a very awkward visual representation, since the generations aren't lined up together -- but of course when you do that you get a vastly wide chart. And the graphics don't seem to distinguish relationships of blood and marriage? Maybe to those not accustomed to anthropological kinship diagrams it doesn't suffer those problems.

[This message has been edited by FWG (edited 11-14-2006).]

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2006 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, the layout is quite dreadful, I agree. But if done elegantly (or even logically), I would not have been able to post it here as an image because of the width.

I was rather more interested in how it illuminates the interconnectedness of five silversmith families during a 50 year period, linking Norwich to Poughkeepsie.

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2006 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fiddle the layout a bit to line up the generations better. I also added Eddie Lang, which I didn't spot as a close tie-in before.

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2006 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for witzhall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wev, that looks like an interesting program. But, even allowing for "unwrapping" the generations, I can only figure Abraham and Theodore to be first cousins once removed. Would you explain how you arrived at first cousins? Thanks!

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2006 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their fathers, Abraham and Isaac, were brothers, the sons of Rem and Sarah (Brinkerhoff) Adriance.

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iconnumber posted 11-15-2006 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for witzhall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm definitely missing something; I don't find Isaac, Rem, or Sarah (Brinkerhoff) Adriance anywhere...Oh, dear.

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iconnumber posted 11-15-2006 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing to miss -- they aren't there. This is just a snippet of a very large family tree, its size constrained by the forum image rules and legibility. If we take this picture as an average, I would need an image the size of two football fields for the whole thing.

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iconnumber posted 11-15-2006 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for witzhall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whew! I was clearly taking the whole thread too literally. I guess I should thank you for not including the two football fields. Still an interesting program; genealogy is fascinating and, I'm told, as addictive as silver . . .

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iconnumber posted 11-15-2006 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed; my wife keeps threatening an intervention. . .

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Clive E Taylor

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iconnumber posted 11-15-2006 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clive E Taylor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
"genealogy is fascinating and, I'm told, as addictive as silver . . ."

Quite so.

Trying to unravel the marks and history of silversmith bucklemakers I naturally often use the same sources as the genealogists and find the chase and find the very occasional successes very rewarding . And a great deal cheaper !

Silver collectors tend to regard genealogists as only one step up from train-spotters but we do owe them a great debt. The majority of the now very comprehensive on-line resources come from their activities .

Some is directly their own work as in SILVERSMITHS & RELATED CRAFTSMEN (for American silversmiths) Some is indirect. In England the National Archives online service and the country wide archive search engine owe most of their creation to the demands from family researchers.

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