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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 01-26-2007 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'New Hampshire Silver' by Charles S. Parsons, 1983, was being auctioned on that west coast auction site but failed to sell. The asking price was $225.00. After the auction I asked the seller if he would accept less and the answer was $180.00. After I emailed him I found a copy through Alibris, Inc. for $149.99. As I had never been able to find a copy I quickly ordered it. The object of this story is: seek and ye shall find. I think I shall sell all these books and buy me a Mercedes. After I buy that Mercedes I will drive south to the land of no more snow.

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iconnumber posted 01-26-2007 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If funds are tight, you can always borrow a library copy (throough interlibrary loan, if necessary) of a scarce book and xerox the appropriate pages. It is legal to make one copy for personal use. Although copies are not as good as originals, they are better than nothing, and can tide you over until you can find an affordable original.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 01-26-2007 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found another used copy online for only $115. I guess I should have tried to sell it when the only other available copy was on alibiris for around $400.

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 01-26-2007 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw the $115.00 bookseller site but it had such a poor rating that I decided I would heed the warnings and go to a bookdealer with a good rating. I tried the interlibrary loan but my library could not find the book. Now I no longer need to hunt for it as it is mine all mine Oops, mad scientist coming out

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 01-27-2007 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello!
I have used ABE often, and when I saw this post I discussed the matter with friends who also have had experience with the site. If I may, I'd like to offer their response.

The "store" which you all appear to have found on
something called Best Book Buys is ABE, the Advanced
Book Exchange. It's not a store at all, it's a bank of
computers by which independent booksellers make their
wares available to the internet public.

The feedback was clearly made by a buyer (or buyers)
who simply didn't understand that a complaint should
have been taken up directly with the bookseller, and
that any negative feedback should have been left for
that individual seller, not for the collective
clearinghouse which is known as ABE.

When it started, ABE was populated entirely by
professional booksellers. That is no longer the case.
There are now offerings made on ABE by mere
accumulators of books, people who although they have
the stock, really have no sense of how to grade and
describe a volume. And, sadly, there are no doubt a
few, probably very, very few, downright shysters. That
is a fact of life in any internet-based clearinghouse
operation; everyone's "favorite" internet auction is
evidence enough of that.

The $115 copy is still listed on ABE as available. The
bookseller is unknown to me, but the copy is
professionally described, and, based on the
description, is appropriately priced. It was formerly
part of a library collection, most likely a public
library, and for this reason alone is of literally no
interest whatsoever to a book collector. But for
someone who is interested in the CONTENT of the book,
the words and the photographs, not in the book as a
collectible object itself, such an ex-library copy
presents a very real opportunity.

As in any internet purchase, one should, of course,
satisfy oneself in advance of the reliability of the
seller, and there is more than enough information on
the pages of ABE to allow for that, email and postal
addresses of the individual bookseller, in some cases
phone numbers, links to the seller's web site, et
alia.

For what it's worth, Alibris is built on a similar
"clearinghouse" model, but it does have more human
involvement with distribution and customer
satisfaction than does ABE. Like ABE, it initially was
populated by experienced professional booksellers;
like ABE, that is no longer the case, but because of
its centralized approach to customer service, it does
offer a degree of policing against the occasional
downright dishonest seller that ABE cannot. The
downside of that staffing is that Alibris adds a
consignment fee which results in generally higher
prices for books bought through their service.

For the most part, purchases made through either ABE
or Alibris will be entirely satisfactory, and the
opportunity to own an ex-library copy of a scarce
reference book from a bookseller listed on either site
is not an opportunity to be shunned by any
knowledgeable internet buyer.
I hope this may help for any future purchases.
Jersey

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 01-27-2007 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are also search engines that can be used to find books. Bookfinder.com and used.addall.com are two that I use. These two search engines usually pull up the same results, but occasionally one or the other will have a book listed that the other one missed. The addall site searches 22 different web sites that list books and bookfinder has many of the same but some are different.
If convenient I often call the book dealer direct. Their telephone number is not normally listed, but one of the search engines for telephone numbers will pull it up. It is nice to talk to the dealer and that way you can find out if they have any other references that you may be looking for. Another reason to call is that occasionally they have already sold the book I was looking for and had not yet taken off the web site. Finding out early on that the book is no longer available saves a lot of time in looking for book at another location.
The dealers always seem happy to talk to a customer - perhaps it breaks up their day of writing descriptions for web sites.

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